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[pmc]

Iran is just in a place where China was like 10 years ago and Russia 5 years, where most people rather life in the more stable global north. But look at China now you would be a loser if your Chinese and go to the west as some sort of loser back home. Russians got a mental shock therapy last year with everything the west threw at Russia.

I wouldn't be surprise if in 2030~2035 Iran will be a completely different country with investment into infrastructure and its energy sector from China and Russia.

This will be incorrect assumption. Most Iranian students who are among the best studies in West. They are more fit for Western Corporate culture. unless Iran fundamentally get richer that can absorb much richer diaspora it will be hard to settle this contradiction. and Iran despite so good in education cannot make basic progress in management of oil and gas. It has to cut supplies to Iraq and Turkey.

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Russia have very little international student exposure to West and those who studied there. They simply not adjusted in Russian corporate system unless they bring specific skills and that for limited time. This culture of redundancy comes from Aviation where things are built and maintained in all directions.

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This thing is also reflected in Russian economic policies of Gold that started decades ahead along with investments in Arctic.

 

[Overbom]

You must have missed the ballistic missile attacks on American/Israeli bases in Iraq

The attack against the Mossad Iraq base was legit.
The attack against the US base was "fake". Fake in that the missiles were real but Iran had already warned the Americans about them beforehand so the soldiers just holed up and watched the show lol

 

[ficker22]

Even if China falls it'll put itself together again like the countless times it did in the past 2000 years. Not much to worry about.

I wish that would be the case, but the relative power level of China is not what it was in let's say 17th hundred or earlier compared to other civilisations.


The indian, as eternal subjects of foreign powers regained independence in 1947 for th first time in thousands of years, the west also is craving to cut china open into quadrizillion small pieces to chew her up.


Nationalism and patriotism on account to one's heritage also doesn't work as we can see hanjians can be created very easily by deception and manipulation.


The times were China was the sole actor in her sphere of the world are over.

The next time the mpire long united will remain divided in the next big division.

 

[Abominable]

The attack against the Mossad Iraq base was legit.
The attack against the US base was "fake". Fake in that the missiles were real but Iran had already warned the Americans about them beforehand so the soldiers just holed up and watched the show lol

Definitely wasn't fake, the Americans made a 60 minute episode on it where the Americans on the base were crying about what happened.

At the time reports of multiple injuries were censored by the US regime, including TBI and concussion.

It was a message to the Americans and Israelis. Look at what we can do if you keep pushing us.

 

[taxiya]

Iran is a shame.

On a daily basis being humiliated by Israel and the USA and cannot do anything to respond to the provocations received. Drone attacks against industries and military installations in Israel and in the USA? no news.

By your logic, everybody including US is a shame. When did the US retaliation come after its embassy employees were taken hostage in Tehran? I don't remember any retaliation that was specifically counted for the crisis.

But, at the first chance, the Iranian government will beg for Boeing planes, which they so worship as a religion. They never even consider buying new planes from alternative and potencially allied sources to replace the old crap planes that they have.

The alternative is what? Airbus? And you think that is less shame? After US walked away from the nuclear deal, EU acted like a pimp to press Iran to give in Trump's new demand instead of standing on its commitment to the deal. Russian and Chinese aircraft aren't available yet.

For the pride, you would have stopped using all electronics because they more or less have US products in them.

It is no wonder that the youth and a large part of the population are against the government and want to kneel down to the West. Unlike China and Russia, the Iranian government is not able to give its own people any pride.

US is selling weapons to a Chinese province. EU knows who bombed their pipe line. Germany, SK and Japan are still occupied by US forces. These are much bigger countries, let alone smaller ones.

Lastly but most importantly why being so harsh on the victims than on the aggressor?

 

[BoraTas]

It is good to see those Republican-voting Latinos, Asians and Blacks aren't a majority. Especially regarding women... Because I wonder how someone can be that stupid.

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[Biscuits]

I wish that would be the case, but the relative power level of China is not what it was in let's say 17th hundred or earlier compared to other civilisations.


The indian, as eternal subjects of foreign powers regained independence in 1947 for th first time in thousands of years, the west also is craving to cut china open into quadrizillion small pieces to chew her up.


Nationalism and patriotism on account to one's heritage also doesn't work as we can see hanjians can be created very easily by deception and manipulation.


The times were China was the sole actor in her sphere of the world are over.

The next time the mpire long united will remain divided in the next big division.

China has objectively way more power now than it ever had since the Roman empire era though.

They make something like 10x more steel than the number 2 (EU). And in most industrial sectors, they have majority shares. They're first in science production, and that's with the less educated older generation being most of the lead researchers instead of the young one which recieved first class education. In terms of automobiles, they also have the largest production capacity by far.

Through brute force ability to invent and create, China is here to stay, one way or another. That doesn't mean a good ending is guaranteed for China, it just means that the country is too big to fail. Kinda like how Germany from 1910 to 1950 got completely shit on multiple times and still became powerful in the EU in the end, through sheer size and industrialization, except even Germany was nowhere as big.

What ideology type China will follow as the world's premier power, how much of its power it will be forced to share, and how many bodies will be dropped on the way, those are the main things that will be determined by the cold war.

History has nearly no examples of a smaller economy with less population defeating a larger one on a societal level. And the fact that China has nukes means that they cannot in the first place be completely defeated even if the conventional forces existed.

 

[quim]

By your logic, everybody including US is a shame. When did the US retaliation come after its embassy employees were taken hostage in Tehran? I don't remember any retaliation that was specifically counted for the crisis.


The alternative is what? Airbus? And you think that is less shame? After US walked away from the nuclear deal, EU acted like a pimp to press Iran to give in Trump's new demand instead of standing on its commitment to the deal. Russian and Chinese aircraft aren't available yet.

For the pride, you would have stopped using all electronics because they more or less have US products in them.


US is selling weapons to a Chinese province. EU knows who bombed their pipe line. Germany, SK and Japan are still occupied by US forces. These are much bigger countries, let alone smaller ones.

Lastly but most importantly why being so harsh on the victims than on the aggressor?

It's not me who's licking the aggressor here. What I accuse is that the victim continues to be beaten and does nothing to get rid of the humiliation and dependence.

The US killed top Iranian military officials with impunity, with Iran reacting by warning it would fire on an emptied base with no consequences to enemy morale. It's just weak. Same now.

And about planes, even Russia today has several models that are more modern and even more reliable than the fleet of junk without replacement and safety criteria that Iran maintains and does not even make an effort to renew. But iranians prostrates himself to try for a contract with Boeing and Airbus, which increasingly despise Iran treated like trash.

A victim who continues to depend on the aggressor even after so much time of beatings and does not change is because he does not want to and cannot evolve and will let the aggressor humiliate forever.

This kind of attitude cannot be approved. As long as thoughts you justify here continue to exist, the US will continue to dominate the world, stealing resources and talent and stepping on everyone they need to trample.

 

[ficker22]

China has objectively way more power now than it ever had since the Roman empire era though.

They make something like 10x more steel than the number 2 (EU). And in most industrial sectors, they have majority shares. They're first in science production, and that's with the less educated older generation being most of the lead researchers instead of the young one which recieved first class education. In terms of automobiles, they also have the largest production capacity by far.

Through brute force ability to invent and create, China is here to stay, one way or another. That doesn't mean a good ending is guaranteed for China, it just means that the country is too big to fail. Kinda like how Germany from 1910 to 1950 got completely shit on multiple times and still became powerful in the EU in the end, through sheer size and industrialization, except even Germany was nowhere as big.

What ideology type China will follow as the world's premier power, how much of its power it will be forced to share, and how many bodies will be dropped on the way, those are the main things that will be determined by the cold war.

History has nearly no examples of a smaller economy with less population defeating a larger one on a societal level. And the fact that China has nukes means that they cannot in the first place be completely defeated even if the conventional forces existed.

In the end Germany got subjugated and is to this day, with no bright future.



Even as China became the pinnacle of human output, it also became a even bigger target for rabid mutts to conquer and I am afraid either the mutts wi have China under subjugation or they wi Launch nukes.

 

[horse]

So to summarise, that US general is correct. This Republican is also correct

No. They are colossally out to lunch.

History repeats, because the Americans are too stoned on football to remember what happened before in the past.

Remember when the Berlin Wall fell and the Soviet Union collapsed?

No one in those CIA and other American intelligence agencies saw that coming.

NO ONE!

The CIA never anticipated the collapse of the Soviet Union.

So what happened next?

The CIA the had to compensate, the CIA started to predict that China will collapse soon. They kept that act up for the next few years. Then Comrade Chang grabbed that mantle, and took it to new heights!

Look at what happened last year and this year.

The Americans did not expect a full invasion of Ukraine by the Russians.

Russia launched their special military operations. The CIA got that all wrong.

So to compensate, just like in the past, the Americans now claim China will invade Taiwan!

The CIA covering their ass. The CIA covering up their own incompetence.

This is just a repeat of the past. Almost exact.

As for their predictions, did the PRC collapse? More like the opposite happened. That shows what all this CIA talk is worth.