China Flanker Thread III (land based, exclude J-15)

caohailiang

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i feel it is about time to have another proper discussion on future orbat composition, given all the new info we had recently, such as:

1, J16 production rate at 50 instead of 30
2, J20 production rate at 70 instead of 40
3, J10 procurement seems to slow way down if not completely stopped (rumor has it)
4, rumor on JH7 all retire in a just few years

maybe one of the more senior members could fire the first shot
 

Blitzo

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i feel it is about time to have another proper discussion on future orbat composition, given all the new info we had recently, such as:

1, J16 production rate at 50 instead of 30
2, J20 production rate at 70 instead of 40
3, J10 procurement seems to slow way down if not completely stopped (rumor has it)
4, rumor on JH7 all retire in a just few years

maybe one of the more senior members could fire the first shot

Have the discussion in a different thread.
 

stannislas

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I think once all the J-7's and the J-8's are all decommissioned the PLAAF should slowdown in its fighter procurement at least the Flankers. And focus more on stockpiling air to air missile's, PGM's and invest in more advanced jamming pods, targeting pods and HMS. Those things are just as important as the planes itself. That is the lesson from the war in Ukraine. And maybe more resources should go to the ground forces which in my view has been neglected in the modernization drive. Which mainly focusses on the air force and navy.
What is the relationship between the production of the J-16 and the new munitions and pods?

Munitions and aircraft’s are two completely different systems, yes, just like the Pl-15 and J-20, some of them were designed at the same time and intend to fit each other, but most of the time they pretty much go their separate ways and are not related to each other, you can clearly spot this pattern at the Zhuhai Airshow. The J-16 is a great platform to carry a variety of large munitions and pods.

The PLA on the other hand are quite open these days with their new aircraft but still very conservative in showing off their munitions, but given how crazy the PL-15/10 is spreading and how almost every aircraft (even old jh-7a) has a self defence jamming pod, I think the PLA are very aware of this.

Please don't fall into the misconception of judging the PLA through Russia, they are now completely different from their equipments to their startegies to their military building philosophy.
 

Blitzo

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It's just around 1800 if you count the actual modules

What's the difference between "actual modules" and "total modules"

Personally I'm not sure if this is actually one of J-16's radars (it might be), but all of this discussion about counting its T/R modules is a bit superfluous if no one has actually done the legwork itself.

I tried counting it earlier today but I got about eight columns through before I called it quits.
 

broadsword

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What's the difference between "actual modules" and "total modules"

Personally I'm not sure if this is actually one of J-16's radars (it might be), but all of this discussion about counting its T/R modules is a bit superfluous if no one has actually done the legwork itself.

I tried counting it earlier today but I got about eight columns through before I called it quits.

If you used a caliper, either hard or soft, it would have helped.
 
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