The War in the Ukraine

Zichan

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HI Sutton has become kind of a joke after this war with the way he started to write.

The amount of especulation in this article written in an almost fanboyish way.

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Weren’t most of his articles speculation even before the war?

I don’t find anything outrageous about this particular article.
 

MortyandRick

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very interesting talk on the pro Russian Duran channel. They have a theory about why it took so long for Putin to mobilize. They think he waited until then Russian population called out for mobilization then they did it. That way it’s like manufactured consent. Also it appears china and Russia have been meeting behind the scenes a lot more then people realize.
 

taxiya

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You need to ask who in this world is enthusiastically joining any war? Those "brave heros" only exist in the movie, or very very few in reality.

People are only enthusiastic to fight a war if:
  1. they are promised the loot and spoil
  2. the loot and spoil is more valuable than what they already have (nothing)
  3. in case of their death, their share of spoil is passed to their relatives.
Otherwise, people only join the war when forced. Putting up a brave face is only propaganda which is everywhere.
 

sheogorath

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Weren’t most of his articles speculation even before the war?

I don’t find anything outrageous about this particular article.

He made a more serious effort to analyze them logically and avoided using "wunderwaffen" rhetoric and "enthusiasm". And he has pretty much propagandized his twitter account, one time being quite happy about the reports of the sinking of the Admiral Essen and when it turned out to be fake, he didn't mention a thing about it again, not even issuing a tweet correcting it.
 

memfisa

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He made a more serious effort to analyze them logically and avoided using "wunderwaffen" rhetoric and "enthusiasm". And he has pretty much propagandized his twitter account, one time being quite happy about the reports of the sinking of the Admiral Essen and when it turned out to be fake, he didn't mention a thing about it again, not even issuing a tweet correcting it.
Usually normal people realize at that point credibility is a human resource that can be used up

When they still don't realize it is about when you just turn your ears off
 

Phead128

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very interesting talk on the pro Russian Duran channel. They have a theory about why it took so long for Putin to mobilize. They think he waited until then Russian population called out for mobilization then they did it. That way it’s like manufactured consent. Also it appears china and Russia have been meeting behind the scenes a lot more then people realize.

We have esteemed SDF members who been calling for partial mobilization since early March, 2022.

March 14th, 2022
I think Russia should do a partial mobilization and call up reservists and other troops. It was echoed by some former Donbas fighters.

Who knew Putin just needed to read SDF forums for accurate predictions.
 
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MortyandRick

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We have esteemed SDF members who been calling for partial mobilization since early March, 2022.

March 14th, 2022


Who knew Putin just needed to read SDF forums for accurate predictions.
Let me clarify, they speculate that Putin waited until the voices and calls for mobilization had became so loud that it can drown out anti-mobilization voices with a large enough confident interval that then they initiated a partial mobilization. Otherwise it could have been that the anti mobilization protests or videos of people not wanting mobilization would have been even more pronounced And further used by western media to show alleged Russian discontent.
 

baykalov

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According to the Bulgarian mainstream media, the mobilization in Russia is proceeding normally. More than 10 000 volunteers signed up on the first day without receiving any summons.

The Russian military said at least 10,000 people have volunteered to take part in the fighting in Ukraine, a day after President Vladimir Putin ordered the mobilisation of reservists.

"On the first day of the partial mobilization, about 10,000 citizens arrived at recruitment offices of their own free will, without waiting for a call-up," Vladimir Tsimlyansky, a military spokesman, told the Russian news agency Interfax.

He added that the military had set up a call centre to answer questions from citizens and organisations about mobilisation.

Amateur footage posted on social media after Putin's announcement showed hundreds of Russian citizens across the country responding to military summonses. In the Siberian city of Yakutia, the footage shows men with their faces covered hugging family members before boarding a bus. The popular Telegram channel Mash circulated footage showing long lines of people waiting to board a plane in the eastern Khabarovsk Krai as part of the mobilization. The video, allegedly filmed in the southern republic of Chechnya, shows dozens of young men at a local recruitment office.

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panzerfeist1

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Dont tell me the 35k Zerg rush was all for nothing.

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Some kilometers north #RussianArmy, #DPR & #LPR forces began entering in the first areas of industrial district of Artemivsk/Бахмут & surrounding areas after weeks of combats as #UkrainianArmy began their retreat from the eastern part of the city.
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On eastern front #RussianArmy & #DPR forces launched an attack to Zhovanka from two axis, thus forcing #UkrainianArmy to withdraw from the suburb north of Gorlovka/Горлівка city. In addition, troops are currently advancing towards Mayorsk Station.
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panzerfeist1

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I dont know why Zelensky is so funny.

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I used Yandex, so dont shoot me if i mistranslated:

"If you don't want to give tanks, no offense – you are an independent state, don't give. But don't try to say: America first, then Germany, then Poland. If you don't want to give tanks. We will win this war without your tanks, but I wanted you to know that we are fighting for our common interests"
 
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