Fourth Taiwan Strait Crisis

[Peas]

 

[lych470]

Im pretty sure Chinese intelligence has already confirmed she is onboard.

Besides, what kind of idiot games would it be to send an empty plane?

空城计 is a well known stratagem, surely.

 

[Petrolicious88]

I am Taiwanese, and let me tell you most people just want to live in peace. Even the majority of the people that elected this moron voted for her because of her promise to tackle economic inequality, intergenerational wealth gap, and social issues such as womens' rights and gay rights. There is so few people that vote for her in order to have her start a war. In any case, it seems the RoC tried to rescind the invitation at the last minute, but Pelosi is stubborn and wanted to go anyway. If war does happen, it is inevitable that some hardliners in the military will start firing back, even if many would surrender. But any sign of RoC forces firing back will invite a retaliation, and the rest of us will just become collateral damage. But hey that is just life...

Praying for peace. But it’s too late for Pelosi to back out now. It would be a massive loss of face.

And it’s too late for China to backdown too. Either you do something big or stop crying wolf. China will likely try to intercept her plane.

 

[Jat]

"...China would then shelf the occupation war on Taiwan island and focus on settling the main naval war in western pacific..."

Do you have any idea what you are talking about ? Once full on naval engagement starts, you won't even know what hit you and from where. This type of overconfidence is suicidal. We Indians too don't want a unipolar world; but you are hellbent on giving the US a chance.

What is the hurry when you are fast closing the gap ? It is just arrogance coming from new wealth earned too quickly. Go on ! Take them on; then wait for another 50 years or more.

Go for it ! Actually I don't think you live in the China mainland - easy for you to send other people to their deaths.

 

[bustead]

Also, I still want to know if it is possible to shoot at Pelosi's plane with an autocannon without it exploding. I consider direct cannon fire to be the most extreme and final form of warning before actually shooting her plane down.

 

[phrozenflame]

Lots of Hollywood material here Gentlemen, some of it quite good and exciting.

I didn't mention Bollywood because nobody suggested Mr Xi himself flying J-20 shooting lasers and knocking out all squadrons of F-35s solo.

 

[plawolf]

What I was thinking in terms of escalation:

1. Fly close to the American plane carrying Pelosi with some fighters. Warn them over the radio.
2. Do a barrel roll to display your missiles.
3. Jam the navigation and communications of the American plane with ECM.
4. Drop flares and chaff in front of the American plane
5. Fly dangerous maneuvers in front or next to the American plane.
6. Fire warning shots with a 30mm cannon. Make sure to load tracers beforehand.
7. Send a J-6 UAV up and ram Pelosi's plane.

I think ramming the plane still offers some advantages over shooting it down directly because it offers a solution to de-escalation. You can say that it is just an accident and no one should be responsible. Or shift the blame on Pelosi herself for bringing death to the crew. Either way, this method offers some room for maneuver diplomatically speaking.

Nah, I think China’s response is going to be in a different league compared to what the Americans expect.

The PLAAF fighters will display exemplary professionalism in intercepting her flight, issue warnings and stay with them in perfect formation.

Their job isn’t to try to dissuade her visit, but to confirm and evidence her entering 12nm of Taiwan.

Once that’s confirmed, the PLAAF fighters will peel away and burn like hell away from Taiwan as the rest of the PLA rain hell on Taiwan’s defences. Pelosi will get a front row seat to the fireworks from her plane to this most historic of events for China.

Job well done agent Pelosi.

 

[ficker22]

Typical American, you can only think about violence...

We aren't dealing with the viet cong here. I'd rather have a bloodless reunification than watch Taiwan get annihilated with missile strikes. If that gives them a heads up so be it.

I don't think it'll make any difference if China gave them a week. As far as I can tell, there's no appetite for war in Taiwan.
There seems to be very little evidence of mobilisation on the Taiwanese side compared to the PLA right.

We'll have to wait and see.

I think his LoT was giving the US CSG 24 hours time to prepare missions is the much more undesirable outcome if we wait and see instead of bombing the island to kingdom come right away.

After all 24 million people can just be born a new after some time.

 

[supersnoop]

Praying for peace. But it’s too late for Pelosi to back out now. It would be a massive loss of face.

And it’s too late for China to backdown too. Either you do something big or stop crying wolf.

FFFF face, no one elected this bitch, why do people have to die for her?

At least Helen of Troy was beautiful.

Pardon my language, but she deserves it for these games

 

[ZeEa5KPul]

Their job isn’t to try to dissuade her visit, but to confirm and evidence her entering 12nm of Taiwan.

What happened to "if she dies, she dies"?