Fourth Taiwan Strait Crisis

[abc123]

Exactly, building lots of silos is nice and all but the primary focus should be on advancing nuclear submarine tech as fast as possible. A large fleet of ICBM-capable subs will make China's second strike capabilities strong enough to guarantee MAD in any scenario.

Just the contrary, until China solves the Taiwan ( and generally First chain of islands ) issue ( and makes significant progress in nuclear submarine quality construction, SSBN and SSN alike ), having a significant investments into a SSBNs is pointless. They would be sitting ducks.

Far smarter to invest into lots of road-mobile land based launchers.

 

[Will76]

It is worth reminding people who are stating whether or not it is shameful to let Pelosi land in Taipei is that Pelosi's travel itinerary did not include Taiwan and neither her press release highlighted this, considering that prior to these statements the narrative increased a lot around the Pelosi traveling to Taiwan, if she lands in Taiwan it will be an unofficial visit, China has so far managed through its acts (exercises) to put pressure to exclude an official visit by Pelosi to Taiwan, even if the visit takes place, this still it's not a disgrace to China, but I'm pretty sure China will do everything possible for Pelosi not to land in Taiwan.

They've already made it official.

 

[FriedButter]

If she lands in Taiwan it will be an unofficial visit, China has so far managed through its acts (exercises) to put pressure to exclude an official visit by Pelosi to Taiwan, even if the visit takes place, this still it's not a disgrace to China, but I'm pretty sure China will do everything possible for Pelosi not to land in Taiwan.

No, this is an official visit whatever you like it or not.

Pelosi said on Friday that she wants Congress "to be part of Biden administration's strategy in the Indo-Pacific," according to media.

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[56860]

It is worth reminding people who are stating whether or not it is shameful to let Pelosi land in Taipei is that Pelosi's travel itinerary did not include Taiwan and neither her press release highlighted this, considering that prior to these statements the narrative increased a lot around the Pelosi traveling to Taiwan, if she lands in Taiwan it will be an unofficial visit, China has so far managed through its acts (exercises) to put pressure to exclude an official visit by Pelosi to Taiwan, even if the visit takes place, this still it's not a disgrace to China, but I'm pretty sure China will do everything possible for Pelosi not to land in Taiwan.

It still massively erodes Chinese sovereignty and national security by setting a precedent for other national leaders to make 'unofficial' trips to occupied Taiwan Province.

 

[tankphobia]

It is worth reminding people who are stating whether or not it is shameful to let Pelosi land in Taipei is that Pelosi's travel itinerary did not include Taiwan and neither her press release highlighted this, considering that prior to these statements the narrative increased a lot around the Pelosi traveling to Taiwan, if she lands in Taiwan it will be an unofficial visit, China has so far managed through its acts (exercises) to put pressure to exclude an official visit by Pelosi to Taiwan, even if the visit takes place, this still it's not a disgrace to China, but I'm pretty sure China will do everything possible for Pelosi not to land in Taiwan.

If after all the hype and strong messages and live fire drills they allow the number 3 in the US to land on Chinese soil without their permission it would destroy Chinese prestige and strengthen Taiwan independence legitimacy. The domestic audience is already on fire, allowing her landing will be a match.

 

[ironborn]

When the plane carries the old hag with her entourage in the air and flying toward Taiwan. China just need to fire some ballistic missiles, once every 10 minutes over the island toward the water on the east side, just like 1996. I am sure China can spare 50-100 old ballistic missiles. Plane will never trying to land under such condition. Nobody dies, Americans get an excuse not to land in Taiwan, China get what she wants. No atoms get split this time, we can all look forward to the next one.

 

[ZeEa5KPul]

The reason the USSR was trash was for the same reasons you are advocating for China. Instead of improving the lives of common people, resources were wasted on military projects trying to one up the USA.

The lives of the common people have improved far beyond anything a Soviet citizen could dream of and would continue to quickly improve with military spending at 3% of GDP. Trying to one-up the USA was something the USSR did and part of the reason it was trash. China isn't interesting in one-upping the USA, it's interested in defeating the USA.

START has nothing to do with proliferation, it's a bilateral arms reduction treaty. Russia is under no restriction to partner with China on nuclear weapons.

START isn't prohibiting Russia from partnering with China, sure. Russia doesn't do so for reasons outside START, but START's abolition would compel Russia to partner with China.

Centrifugal isotope enrichment works on plutonium as well. While it is probably more cost effective to purchase fissile material from Russia, its better to rely on your own stockpiles.

No mechanism for separating plutonium isotopes has been demonstrated. We might speculate that one exists and China has it, but speculation is all it would be.

I don't see why it would be "better" to rely on domestic vs. foreign plutonium stockpiles. Plutonium is plutonium, and once China has it in hand, it doesn't matter how it got it.

 

[escobar]

I think another factor is the years of Chinese foreign correspondence aimed at domestic consumption biting back. When you threaten action over every misgiving without acting on it, your enemy cease to see your warning as threats.

I said in the past CN should stop threaten action over every misgiving if they are not ready to back it with military action. Now here we are.
they weakened their own deterence posture

 

[sunnymaxi]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1554180884726792193

 

[manqiangrexue]

Should ask the CPC why it didn't properly invest in the PLA and treated it as an abandoned child (relatively to economic). But now that a crisis is happening, the whole CPC is screaming for the military to help it out lol

They wanted economic investment? Fine.
But now that sht has hit the fan, don't complain about the PLA. Should had reached the deep pockets and properly invested in it a decade it ago. So no more whining please. China pathetically low military spending is 100% CPC's upper echelon fault. This is also Xi's fault and it shows why after his 3rd term ends, the new generation must quickly take charge of the CPC.

Finallly, the PLA can only perform its tasks with what is given by the CPC. If the CPC shts on the PLA and gives it a few shiny toys here and there, without any big numbers involved, don't expect any miracles from it

I have no idea what you're complaining about. The PLA grew from a force using Russian throw-away weapons to one with stealth fighters, nuclear submarines, AWACs, hypersonic nuclear missiles, the only anti-ship ballistic missiles in the world, aircraft carriers and soon an EMALs aircraft carrier. No military around the world has grown this quickly so what are you talking about? You need the economy to support technological progress and you need technological progress to boost the military so it's natural where China is today. China's economy has basically just shown itself to surpass the US economy by winning the trade war; China's technological development is currently arm-wrestling the US, and the military is not yet on par with the US but growing faster. Putting the military first will cause a country to end up top-heavy like the Soviet Union.

You're just frustrated at the situation so you need to find someone to blame and the only one you can grab is the CCP. But they're doing the best job in the world and the fact is that this situation happened because China is growing so fast that America's insecurities and fears demand that it try to rock the boat while it still can. You want to channel your energy and hate, save it for the instigator: the US. Work hard in STEM, make sure your children work hard in STEM and make sure they know they're Chinese. That's what the US fears. Regardless of where an old hag goes tomorrow, to Taiwan or straight to hell, as long as Chinese people stay patriotic and do our best for China, China will continue to chase and overtake the US. This is what every person can contribute to and this principle should be our rock and pillar as Chinese people. The least helpful thing you can do is attack the CCP, which is what every US politician wants to see in Chinese people.