Fourth Taiwan Strait Crisis

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jwnz

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Patience is going to be very tough to come by when you're constantly being spat on by your bully daring you to do something about it laughing at you at the same time. Can the Chinese people stomach such indignity till then?
If I can, I'm certain the much wiser leadership of CPC and PLA can lead the Chinese people to be patient too.

Listen to Sun Tzu, not Joe Tzu ;)
 

ember

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An invasion of Taiwan will trigger anti-China sanctions in the West very similar to the current anti-Russian sanctions. This is exactly what America wants.

Maybe shooting down Pelosi would be the lesser evil if it only triggers a conflict with the US.
 

Abominable

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Crashing/shooting Pelosi’s plane in anyway is not on the table. China is not about to kill a member of Congress, let along speaker of the house.
Why do so many people seem to think China is bluffing? The US certainly doesn't.

I think there's a less than 1% chance that Pelosi actually attempts to enter Taiwan, but if she does, her plane will be intercepted. I don't understand how anyone can look at the global situation and think China will take an open and blatant violation of it's territory on the chin.

The fact that there is near complete radio silence from the US regime says it all. If this was any other country we'd be hearing 24/7 about how America won't be threatened, China is warmongering, etc. They realise using that tone with China will only make war inevitable. The Americans have realised the Rubicon has been crossed and they are powerless to do anything about it.
 

Bellum_Romanum

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Very interesting as to how this may play out. IF Pelosi goes, stays one night, and doesn't "officially" meet anyone, it might be argued away as just a refueling stop, so to say. This might achieve a "face-saving" situation. But this would be playing long odds!
But that's if Pelosi and the DPP are going to remain rational when you know that Tsai will milk this episode to her advantage politically speaking. This visit can be spun as a showing of America's firm (albeit unofficial) commitment that Taiwan would not be forsaken and left alone against the tyranny of the commies. Despite the stern warnings, public issuance of vague threats, not to mention the public display of force by the PLA, America led by Pelosi pressed on and landed her plane escorted by American Naval assets without being interdicted. This is the message that America wants to convey that will get a lot of play and further deterioration of the One China Policy.

That’s why am really having a difficult time seeing this shit show remaining violence free.

And yet time and time again, we're told in the west countless times and accepted without question that Democracies act with restraint, not bellicose, and certainly not short sighted with dealing with strategic adversaries. Not to mention that they're supposedly not about having the need to "SAVE FACE" when in reality it's the actual opposite. But, please we know from the records of history that it's not really the case regardless of how they market their actions or use of force to maintain peace.
 
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ZeEa5KPul

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The worst thing about this whole episode is the amount of low effort and bad takes that the internet has seen, including in this very thread, which makes me worry for the future of PLA watching and geopolitical commentary here.
During times like these, it's very important that mods make a proactive effort to send not just trolls but people whose views don't align with the community consensus on a vacation. In a period of heightened stress and emotions it's much easier to troll and flamebait than usual. Failure to do so will result in the takes you see here.
 

Abominable

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Maybe the stopover at Singapore is to let the other members of the delegation who aren’t suicidal jump ship.

Curious that no one is asking after Pelosi’s health like how the whole western MSM was convinced Putin had terminal cancer when the whole Ukraine thing kicked off. A terminal brain tumour would explain a fucking lot to be frank.
You don't know how the American elite think. Even if she was told she had a month to live she would still be too scared to go. The American elite believe they will live forever.
 

plawolf

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Why do so many people seem to think China is bluffing? The US certainly doesn't.

I think there's a less than 1% chance that Pelosi actually attempts to enter Taiwan, but if she does, her plane will be intercepted. I don't understand how anyone can look at the global situation and think China will take an open and blatant violation of it's territory on the chin.

The fact that there is near complete radio silence from the US regime says it all. If this was any other country we'd be hearing 24/7 about how America won't be threatened, China is warmongering, etc. They realise using that tone with China will only make war inevitable. The Americans have realised the Rubicon has been crossed and they are powerless to do anything about it.
Fully agree except for the Rubicon part. That has not yet been crossed so there is still time to avoid this disaster.

Biden can make one phone call and end this right now if he chose to, and I think this is a large part of what this whole stunt is about - domestic politics and brinksmanship within the US Democratic Party.

Biden knows to make the call is to commit personal political suicide for the good of the country and the world; but he still wants to run for President again in 2024. I think Pelosi desperately doesn’t want that but doesn’t have the political capital to prevent it. At least not without starting a full blown civil war within the Democratic Party that would see them destroyed for a generation. So she is playing chicken with war to try and force Biden’s hand.
 
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