Fourth Taiwan Strait Crisis

[texx1]

The guy probably has some U.S. investments or spoiled children/family members that are living large in the U.S. or he's being cajoled by the business class group to write thus opinion piece afraid to be sanctioned and have their wealth be reduced to plain RMB.

How many more line of communication is this fella wants to have with the U.S. and what is it exactly that America isn't understanding or doesn't seem to understand when the language and text of their 4 principles are written in English.

I can't believe that Mr. Zhong could write such contemptible nonsense treating the Chinese people to be numb to constant American propaganda and provocation.

More like please Xi, don't do anything too provocative, think of all our investments and my children's inability to party in NYC, California etc..

Ah Yes. Zheng Sheng words supersedes the Minister of Defence and the Foreign Minister. Perhaps, he might actually be the real premier in secret or maybe his actually the prime minister himself. Maybe Xi is just a shadow for Zheng.

Zhong Sheng (钟声) is not some guy or a CCP official. It's not a person, it's a pen name for People's Daily since 2008. It's shorthand for Voice of China (中国之声). It is currently one of the most politically significant/influential pen name under which CCP publishes its commentaries on important policies and major international issues. It is often used to explain PRC's positions and views, or signifying which path to take under CCP political terms. It is usually considered and treated as a voice of CCP central authority.

 

[vincent]

I've mentioned to a couple people in private that folks in DC are rather in a frenzy over all this, but I think it's worth mentioning that things are at something of a fever pitch now. I've personally not seen the kind of scrambling that is currently going on in quite a while (since maybe 2020 Iran or 2017 NK, truth be told).

Do note, CSG5's course alteration is not indicative of a disengagement or détente - that much I will state with certainty. It is a fairly cookie-cutter force protection measure to ensure it isn't caught in the teeth of the PLA's anti-shipping complex should things get crazy. There is a reason 72 has kept her standoff as well (remember how I said ~1000nm standoff from the mainland is around the sweet spot for CVN ops? Yeah.). Ironically, should the CSGs enter within that anti-shipping "death zone" (within ~500nm of PLA installations), it would be indicative that we do not perceive kinetic escalation to be likely enough to merit concern.

I don't personally anticipate a wider conflagration, but I don't want there to be any illusions that we're not concerned about this in DC, or that we aren't rating Pelosi's hell% speedrun attempt as sufficiently destabilizing to necessitate such force protection measures. This is especially aimed at those who consider us to be an unthinking, malevolent actor that is just trying to stir the pot without considering the PRC's position. Geopolitics is a lot more complicated than that, and there are plenty of us both in the DOD and adjacent-to who do not want this sort of thing to occur.

What will Pelosi’s plane do if a Chinese fighter established a radar lock on it?

 

[FriedButter]

It is often used to explain PRC's positions and views, or signifying which path to take under CCP political terms. It is usually considered and treated as a voice of CCP central authority.

Government Hierarchy.

1) Zhong Sheng
2) Xi Jinping
3) Li Keqiang
4) MOD, FM, every other minister.

All you keep suggesting is Zhong Sheng has higher authority than the statements that the minister of defence and foreign minister has saying. That also includes Xi Jinping statement about playing with fire. So whose in charge of China then? A secret council of doves or Xi Jinping and his ministers?

 

[vincent]

It depends on a lot of factors, so I don't think I can reasonably answer that. One of the most important factors being whether or not her plane has an RWR

Thanks for the answer
Another question, what is the rules of engagement for American escort fighters if ROC fighter escorts are being shot at? What will Pelosi’s plane do then?

 

[zgx09t]

I for one wouldn't mind at all dying in a nuclear blast. I just want to see all nukes on earth going off in different directions, Russian, Chinese, Korean, American, etc before I go. That'd be more fun than merely talking about it like a really creepy old dude.

That'd serve everybody just right.

 

[ZeEa5KPul]

Government Hierarchy.

1) Zhong Sheng
2) Xi Jinping
3) Li Keqiang
4) MOD, FM, every other minister.

All you keep suggesting is Zhong Sheng has higher authority than the statements that the minister of defence and foreign minister has saying. That also includes Xi Jinping statement about playing with fire. So whose in charge of China then? A secret council of doves or Xi Jinping and his ministers?

Bro, they didn't use a phrase from 60 years ago when Zhong Sheng (same guy, trust me, bro) wrote about the Sino-Indian War. Everything's cool.

 

[texx1]

Government Hierarchy.

1) Zhong Sheng
2) Xi Jinping
3) Li Keqiang
4) MOD, FM, every other minister.

All you keep suggesting is Zhong Sheng has higher authority than the statements that the minister of defence and foreign minister has saying. That also includes Xi Jinping statement about playing with fire. So whose in charge of China then? A secret council of doves or Xi Jinping and his ministers?

I suggested that Zhong Sheng is a politically significant source. Published articles under this name should be given serious consideration for analysis. Hence I posted it. No where in my previous posts made commentaries on CCP hierarchy. Besides CCP senior officials have a known history of publishing their thoughts under pen names.

BTW, if you even bother to read the actual article, you would know it contained Xi's statements. Still 2/3 article is focused mostly on more dialogue.

 

[vincent]

Happily. I got out of surgery relatively recently so I'm not exactly the clearest head, but I'll answer as much as I can.

If ROC fighters are being shot at, Pelosi's plane will immediately vacate the area. Specific ROE isn't something I can discuss in general, nor something I have access to in this instance.

Thanks again.
So there is a way for China and US not to directly engage in a hot war by engaging ROC fighters only. A repeat of 1958 Taiwan Strait Crisis (只打蒋舰，不打美舰).

 

[ZeEa5KPul]

You guys know I joke around about this issue, but that's really to relieve the stress I'm feeling. I know how fundamentally serious this situation is. All I can say is if the PLAAF are given the order to open fire on Pelosi's plane... they should first hack into the sound system and play

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LMFAO! Now that's fair warning.

 

[JewPizza]

You guys know I joke around about this issue, but that's really to relieve the stress I'm feeling. I know how fundamentally serious this situation is. All I can say is if the PLAAF are given the order to open fire on Pelosi's plane... they should first hack into the sound system and play

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LMFAO! Now that's fair warning.

Are you from the mainland? Is that you feel stress about this situation?