Infantry Combat Equipment (non-firearm): Vests, Body Armor, NVGs, etc.

pipaster

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A machine that automatically measures a soldier's height, body shape, shoe size, head size, and other parameters to ensure he's outfitted with correctly sized helmets and uniforms.

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Not only better fitting equipment, but also data to design future equipment!
 

by78

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A list of items the make up the new individual soldier system. Unfortunately, I could not find better quality images, so this makes translation difficult.

The list is broken into several categories (clockwise from bottom left).
- Communications systems: radios, smart fore grip, glow sticks, IFF, binoculars, smart terminal, rifle scope image acquisition and transceiver module, etc.
- Combat systems: the assault rifle, various scopes, grenades, combat knife, tactical flashlight, pistol, etc.
- Combat uniform and equipment care systems: the uniform itself, helmet, visor, pads, canteens, various accessory pouches, personal care products, pen and notebook, first aid kit, rifle cleaning kit, etc.
- Battery charger, etc.

Overall, quite a comprehensive set of equipment, which explains the necessity of the rucksack.

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Another illustration from what I believe to be the same document. It shows off the various bags and sacks and how they go together. There are four available: 1) basic accessory bag, which is used to carry in one place mag pouches, pistol holster, canteen pouch, and everything that can hang off the tactical vest; 2) tactical backpack for going on missions; 3) duffle bag; 4) large rucksack for carrying supplies and items needed for daily living, presumably personal hygiene items, bedding, tent, etc.

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Note the shoulder bags worn by the two soldiers in the foreground.

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TerraN_EmpirE

Tyrant King
Is... the PLAN going AOR2 with the woodland pattern now...? Like, is there really a need to, besides we're obviously thinking?

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Just because he is on a ship doesn’t mean he is not on land…
NWU 3 the AOR 2 pattern set used by the USN is used widely as like the Smuf uniforms of the PLA it was widely unpopular are frankly a waste of resources. Especially with the revelation of its fire issues. The USN has established a replacement for the NWU in the 2 Piece Organizational Clothing a set of fire resistant uniform.

For Navies not every sailor actually goes to sea. The Navies of the world are loaded with Land sailors and air sailors today. This photo is clearly not a ship at sea. So that could explain his garb. A land sailor or a sea sailor on a ship not deployed… could.
The PLAN was however one of the earlier Navies to adopt the Blue camouflage vanity pattern starting in the 1990s. With Stary Sky the Beijing clearly had grown tired of every division and unit getting a unique vanity pattern.
Standardization was pushed. One family to rule them all. Since it’s initial launch the grey version of that pattern family the one most likely to find favor by Naval and Airforces as a vanity pattern has disappeared. As such maybe. Though a modification of the Russian style garrison uniform might have lead to a solid colored set of 2 piece coveralls nothing has shown.
 

Helius

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Just because he is on a ship doesn’t mean he is not on land…
NWU 3 the AOR 2 pattern set used by the USN is used widely as like the Smuf uniforms of the PLA it was widely unpopular are frankly a waste of resources. Especially with the revelation of its fire issues. The USN has established a replacement for the NWU in the 2 Piece Organizational Clothing a set of fire resistant uniform.

For Navies not every sailor actually goes to sea. The Navies of the world are loaded with Land sailors and air sailors today. This photo is clearly not a ship at sea. So that could explain his garb. A land sailor or a sea sailor on a ship not deployed… could.
The PLAN was however one of the earlier Navies to adopt the Blue camouflage vanity pattern starting in the 1990s. With Stary Sky the Beijing clearly had grown tired of every division and unit getting a unique vanity pattern.
Standardization was pushed. One family to rule them all. Since it’s initial launch the grey version of that pattern family the one most likely to find favor by Naval and Airforces as a vanity pattern has disappeared. As such maybe. Though a modification of the Russian style garrison uniform might have lead to a solid colored set of 2 piece coveralls nothing has shown.
I specifically did not mention NWU III precisely to avoid conflating those two completely unrelated issues like you did - The fact the NWU is not rated for fire-resistance and the camo pattern it adopts have nothing to do with one another, nor is it relevant to the uniform type the PLAN uses... Which makes your 1st paragraph rather pointless.

As for the actual woodland pattern on this particular officer's uniform, the caption on the screen capture does state, which I also pointed out, that he's the executive officer (副舰长) presumably of the ship he's standing on, presumably a 056 judging by the helideck and what looks to be '596' which is indeed one of the HK Garrison's 056 fleet.

So he's certainly not a "land sailor", nor would he, in the absence of evidence to the contrary, be reasonably expected to serve duties on land as opposed to onboard his own ship as deck officer, which does make the choice of his uniform's camo pattern seem odd under the circumstance, and dare I say, particularly noteworthy.

Because despite the fact that the old Type 7 with the ocean pattern is obviously on the out, this suggests a possible indication of the PLAN also phasing in the Starry Sky pattern even for shipboard crews when they've already begun adopting the solid dark blue/almost black colour scheme for the new Type 21 -

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So if standardisation is the intent, then the question becomes - Which pattern is now being 'standardised' for the PLAN?
 

TerraN_EmpirE

Tyrant King
It was earlier than the type 07. The PLA was adding blue to woodland patterns as a full decade and a half before 07.
AOR is the pattern of NWU sets. You can’t conflate them they are one and the same.

He may be a sea sailor but the ship he is on is not at sea. Not in operation. We can see that from the background of the photo. His ship is tied out in port.
A ship in port could take years before being able to deploy during a maintenance ant training cycle. During that time the ship does have a crew. However they are not at sea.
 

Helius

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It was earlier than the type 07. The PLA was adding blue to woodland patterns as a full decade and a half before 07.
AOR is the pattern of NWU sets. You can’t conflate them they are one and the same.

He may be a sea sailor but the ship he is on is not at sea. Not in operation. We can see that from the background of the photo. His ship is tied out in port.
A ship in port could take years before being able to deploy during a maintenance ant training cycle. During that time the ship does have a crew. However they are not at sea.
Once again, the adoption programmes of the USN with their working uniforms, whether it be NWU I with the 'Blueberry' pattern, or NWU III with AOR 2 is irrelevant to what PLAN does with theirs. The NWU is Navy-specific, whereas the Type 21 is across all services.

Neither is this issue of the Navy fielding the two-piece when they already have the FRV because some people didn't like wearing coveralls. Last I checked neither the Type 7 nor the 21 was fire-resistant.

So all of that is wildly beside the point and digresses from the PLAN's own uniform and camo choices. Bringing NWU into the discussion IMO only serves to invite unnecessary and irrelevant debate like this here one now. To reiterate, uniform choice is not the issue.

Also irrelevant is the issue of when the PLAN began adopting the blue camo, since the pre-Type 7 ocean pattern didn't even apply to ship crews, least of all officers, only naval infantry and naval reserves -

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Still, I would've given you that the woodland pattern may have made sense for the reasons you stated, if that was the default pattern for the PLAN's Type 21.

This idea of a different set combat uniform with a different set of camo for non-shipboard duties doesn't quite track if I'm being honest. Because it means there's now an extra set combat uniform with an extra set of camo, from the same uniform type at that. Like I'd referred to above, the PLAN already has the dark blue pattern for their Type 21 as replacement for the current Type 7 Ocean which is service-wide. AFAIK there hasn't been a 'woodland' Type 7 for the PLAN, for deck officers to swap into once they're on land. AFAIK the USN doesn't have different 'AORs' for their NWU III for ship-bound and land-bound duties either.

So I think the same issue still remains. If the PLA is standardising with the Type 21, they aren't standardising very much as far as the PLAN is concerned.
 
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