Ukrainian War Developments

[daifo]

Don't know, maybe different methodologies and/or sources?

Anyway, well done Russia for matching US fatality rates in 20 years of fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan in less than 2 weeks!

Don't you think Ukraine would of showing off more of those dead corpses lying all over the battlefield if the number was 7000+9000?

 

[lapain]

Don't know, maybe different methodologies and/or sources?

Anyway, well done Russia for matching US fatality rates in 20 years of fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan in less than 2 weeks!

Contrary to Afghanistan, Russian troops are actually fighting in Ukraine and not just playing basketball in their barracks.

In any case, I wouldn't be surprised that the true tally barely surpasses a thousand with 3000-4000 casualties when in comes to injured and captured. Very likely as the ratio is usually three wound related casualties per death.

 

[Phead128]

This is why I think Putin's war is genius. Of course you can think in very naive terms and think this is somehow a big win for the West and a big loss for Russia. But if you carefully assess the premise and preconditions of those naive conclusions, you will see, that so far this war has actually elevated the already visibly diverging interests of continental Europe (EU) and the US.

Yes, when you are a weak declining power who is boxed into a corner, then lashing out against a smaller power is a "genius move" if your remaining limited advantages is strong military might and not much else.

 

[LawLeadsToPeace]

He thinks you can count troop casualties with ELINT. Even if they could decrypt the communications to central army command I doubt even they have proper numbers with the war being in a state of flux.

Also, ELINT and COMINT need to be combined together to intercept, decrypt, and decipher enemy transmissions, and they both fall UNDER SIGINT. Like a particular user that is infamous for being too obsessed with the US and creating multiple accounts for spam purposes, they are using acronyms to sound smart. As for the numbers themselves, while the US certainly does have those capabilities to intercept and interpret information, the problem is the officials. Like in Afghanistan, these officials can inflate numbers and hide or manipulate information to portray the situation in a way they want to see it.

 

[Jingle Bells]

Don't know, maybe different methodologies and/or sources?

Anyway, well done Russia for matching US fatality rates in 20 years of fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan in less than 2 weeks!

Well, I am pretty sure if the US military are fighting Ukraine like how Russia is fighting, and have, say, China providing tens of thousands of HJ-12 Anti-Tank missiles and FN-6 MANPADS and a wide variety of Chinese UAVs. I am sure the US will do much better than Russia, but they will still be more casualties than in Iraq or Syria or Afghanistan.

 

[gelgoog]

Uh... Right... You are telling me the Russians could not spare an encrypted hand held radio for a general and yet the Ukrainians have captured several from the Russian troops they killed or captured? You are telling me a general needs to use a 3G phone? Really?
Not even one of those $20 USD HF Chinese hand held radios some of their grunts have? But a 3G phone?

This is what you get when you believe what the Ukraine Minister of Defense and Bellingcat put out.

 

[Maikeru]

Don't you think Ukraine would of showing off more of those dead corpses lying all over the battlefield if the number was 7000+?

Well they would and are but Twitter censors them. Try Telegram if you're into that sort of thing.

 

[lapain]

Yes, when you are a weak declining power who is boxed into a corner, then lashing out against a smaller power is a "genius move" if your remaining limited advantages is strong military might and not much else.

You are not seeing the bigger picture here. Russia is fighting the proxy war against the bigger NATO in Ukraine.
Gearing up a large military rather than a large economy wasn't necessarily Russia's choice to begin with.

 

[Maikeru]

Yes, when you are a weak declining power who is boxed into a corner, then lashing out against a smaller power is a "genius move" if your remaining limited advantages is strong military might and not much else.

Self-perceived strong military might. I don't thnk the RUssian armed forces are scaring anyone other than innocent civilians now. They would be lucky to last 5 minutes against NATO troops, even with a 5 to 1 advantage.

Geelong:

Well based on the competence they've displayed so far...

 

[ZeEa5KPul]

Kozyrev should know all about corruption having been a minister in Yeltsin's government together with his buddies Chubais and Gaidar.

As for casualty reports I think it is way too early to get accurate figures. And you won't be getting an accurate figure from people who aren't even there.

I owe Indians an apology. I thought they were the the biggest liars in the world after the Galwan thing, but they're nowhere near. Ukrainians are by far the most prolific liars on the planet.