Ukrainian War Developments

[Abominable]

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One of the latest maps

However I still dont know why the Russian column is waiting outside Kiev

They tried to break out from Bucha today but never managed to get onto the main road

could the ATGM + MANPADS be kicking in as 3 Russian fighter jets are reported shot down

I suspect this to be the case 100%. After days with little evidence of their existence, we are now seeing videos of tanks being taken out with ATGM and pictures of tanks with HEAT damage. Before today there were very few. It reminds me of the drone claim.

Three su-25 down in one day also questions the air supremacy claim.

 

[Fede_LV]

I suspect this to be the case 100%. After days with little evidence of their existence, we are now seeing videos of tanks being taken out with ATGM and pictures of tanks with HEAT damage. Before today there were very few. It reminds me of the drone claim.

Three su-25 down in one day also questions the air supremacy claim.

If you have to came in low to attack you are always vulnerable to manpads, no matter if you have 400 F22 in the air watching your six.

 

[james smith esq]

I would imagine the order of difficulty for Russian operational forces in the north and east should be something like this:

EASIEST
Surround Chernihiv
Surround Sumy

EASIER
Take Chernihiv
Take Sumy

HARDER
Surround Kharkhiv

EVEN HARDER
Take Kharkiv
Surround Kiev

HARDEST
Take Kiev

The fact that they have not been able to achieve the "easiest" on the list suggests that they are completely stalled out. Where exactly is the Russian advantage?

- According to reports a substantial majority of the Ukrainian air force is still active
- Ukrainian command & control is still active
- Anti-tank and Anti-armor weapons are pouring into Ukraine
- Ukrainian anti-aircraft is still active
- The US is providing Ukraine intelligence on Russian communications & movements within 30-60 minutes
- Russia didn't commit enough troops for a decisive manpower advantage
- Russians are less familiar with the local terrain & the local population are hostile

After considering all these factors, I don't see where Russia has any advantage left. It seems that this is ready to settle into WWI-style trench warfare. IMO unless there is something shocking factor that we don't know about, Russia should focus on completing the 'easy' tasks like sieging Chernihiv rather than trying to take Kiev. But the main thing is that Russia has to prepare for a medium to longer term war.

Aerial bombardment may prove to be decisive. It may be time for Russia to test the practical applicability of their PGMs and LGBs!

Additionally, should any Ukrainian positions be arranged linearly, carpet-bombing with Tu-22M3s could be an option.

 

[AssassinsMace]

So The Week is blaming Russia's 40 mile long convoy back up on low quality Chinese tires... They have to spin anything and everything as China's fault.

 

[Atomicfrog]

So The Week is blaming Russia's 40 mile long convoy back up on low quality Chinese tires... They have to spin anything and everything as China's fault.

I think it's more a case that they just don't want to enter Kiev... taking the east and the south are probably main objectives. Stalling a lot of Ukrainian forces to defend Kyev and the west is the best option to gain ground easier in the east.

 

[manqiangrexue]

I would imagine the order of difficulty for Russian operational forces in the north and east should be something like this:

EASIEST
Surround Chernihiv
Surround Sumy

EASIER
Take Chernihiv
Take Sumy

HARDER
Surround Kharkhiv

EVEN HARDER
Take Kharkiv
Surround Kiev

HARDEST
Take Kiev

The fact that they have not been able to achieve the "easiest" on the list suggests that they are completely stalled out. Where exactly is the Russian advantage?

- According to reports a substantial majority of the Ukrainian air force is still active
- Ukrainian command & control is still active
- Anti-tank and Anti-armor weapons are pouring into Ukraine
- Ukrainian anti-aircraft is still active
- The US is providing Ukraine intelligence on Russian communications & movements within 30-60 minutes
- Russia didn't commit enough troops for a decisive manpower advantage
- Russians are less familiar with the local terrain & the local population are hostile

After considering all these factors, I don't see where Russia has any advantage left. It seems that this is ready to settle into WWI-style trench warfare. IMO unless there is something shocking factor that we don't know about, Russia should focus on completing the 'easy' tasks like sieging Chernihiv rather than trying to take Kiev. But the main thing is that Russia has to prepare for a medium to longer term war.

None of Russia's big weapons have come out yet and Putin clearly hopes to not use them. If Russia commits to fighting Ukraine like an enemy instead of trying to restrain a brother, Russia has some very nasty overkill weapons meant for NATO that can unleash untold damage and destruction without going nuclear. Have you heard of FAOB, the Father of All Bombs? If Russia loads one onto a Tu-22M/160, Kiev should either surrender or start final prayers to enter heaven (not sure if Nazis can get in but whatever, you get the point).

 

[Corona]

Ukrainian TV stations report that footage shows fighting near Kyiv :

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1499860227075854336

Some smash smash :

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1499861553423732737

Civilized shopping in a mall : Port City Shopping Center in Mariupol

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1499856920290725888

 

[Laviduce]

The US neocon/neolib regime is upset that China does not blame Russia for something that the US neocon/neolib regime has started:

 

[RedMetalSeadramon]

Are there not more one billion people with real Chinese names who are not now students in Kharkiv?
Do you suspect that China's government is lying to cover up the Russian killing of Chinese in Ukraine?

Why did they cover up the death of student Huo Chezhan and Zhu Qiche, who were hit by Putler's Tsar Bomba in Rostov this week?

 

[gelgoog]

This video is bollocks. I would love to debunk it but there is so much wrong with it like claims the Ukrainian Air Force is still a significant factor that I won't bother. It would be a wall of text in the end. Fine. I will say one more thing. @plawolf already explained why the Russians went for the airport in the north of Kiev with the VDV. The point was never to infiltrate and assassinate the Ukrainian President or some nonsense like that. If you think the Ukrainian President is in control of their armed forces and armed resistance in the first place I also have a bridge to sell you. Just try to watch recordings of him trying to convince them to leave their dug in positions around the Donbass after he was elected and how well that worked...