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emblem21

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Why? He never declares either explicitly or implicitly that Russia was or is going to invade Ukraine. The west led by America have been shouting about a Russian invasions since 2014 and it has yet to materialize.

The one thing that Russia has been consistent about is NO NATO expansion that even that drunkard Yeltsin also opposed but his Russia at that time was too weak to make a stink about it.

It's the west utter lack of respect and vitriolic hatred for Russian nationalism that's caused this issue regardless of one likes Putin or not. No self-respecting Russian citizen would want his or her country be dictated, humiliated, and essentially become another vassalized country to the primacy and interests of the Anglo-west which is what the U.S. has been trying to do since the end of the Cold War.

The U.S. and her vassals can renege and lie on their prior commitments, can make up new rules ad hoc and abuse the international laws and international institutions pretty much getting away risks free. Meanwhile, countries like Russia, China and others can't even dare to sneeze without getting pilloried, despise, sanctioned, and accused of pretty much all the heinous things one can be attached to a state.

The U.S. doesn't want to be challenged in any sphere any territories it wish to operate full stop. It wants and loves to dictate what the rules of the road and the game are to it's own distinct advantages/national interests to the detriment of international order and laws.
Well the USA loves the idea that they could control even the movement of others and that anything that goes against the narrative is a cause for ‘concern’. But one of these days then the time is right, I wonder, like a brat that would never shut up about a missing toy, would a moment come when the response that comes will be so overwhelming, how much backbone does the USA really have at the end. They love to talk shit but I can guarantee that they cannot any pain and at that moment that they finally get hurt, would anyone stop until all there bones are broken and the face is smashed to pieces. Russia has patients but when that finally runs out, does the USA have what it takes
 

Arnies

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Tbf Russia has gathered quite a lot of troops near Ukraine.
It can't credibly say that this is business as usual
Something has got to give.

Its like, imagine China massing troops from different regions, mobilising them opposite Taiwan and then saying "nothing to see here folks"...

Ukraine would be dumb to believe that so many troops are massing next to it just for some military exercises

I agree Russia will mostly likely mount an invasion but the situation is really bad currently I am from Europe to be specific north Europe it seems like they are deaf and haven't realize the situation except Sweden that geninuely believes Ukraine is faint attack and Russians will invade Sweden instead.. But there seems to be division in NATO and EU besides there is a geninue fear of Russia and the fear is fuking real and can't be understated..

Germany, France has been intimidated into submission and i recall Marcon 2 weeks ago suggesting a real surrender aka just like how the french surrendered back in WW2 in 9days and you have Hungary that has pussyied out and you can add Bulgaria while some have gone complete silent due to fear example Italy, Spain and Greece plus the other smaller fiefdoms like Netherlands, Portugal, etc etc..

The only once out here fighting or should i say not intimidated are the following the US, UK, Poland, Romania, Ukraine, Baltic states and Canada..

Turkey seems like they geninuely are interested in cooling this down and offered to become the next minsk in holding Ukraine and Russia summit. Turkey is in non-intimidated camp but neutral They have good relations with Russia and don't want to see this outfall and it will impact their trade to some degree if Russia is sanctioned as the two have alot trade.. Hence if diplomacy falls Turkey has positioned itself as last resort diplomacy to diffuse the tensions but i don't think any of that matters as Russia is hell-bent and have made up there minds.

Conclusion and post-Ukraine war impact.. Russia will emerge as a major power overnight and one that is extremely feared meaning Russia will finally have that mane of glory the soviet had and if they dispatch Ukraine quickly and brutally while the whole world is watching this will put fear into anyone and this will become like a show of force for Russia and NATO and EU could disintegrate slowly as consequence many eastern Europeans will not feel safe unless they submit to the bear as the fear mongering will reach all time high even more then the soviet union era. Russia will be fear like mad
 

zbb

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The U.S. has created a scenario as follows: Russia attacks Ukraine - see, we told you so, Russia and Putin are bad. Russia doesn't attack Ukraine - see, we scared those bad Russians off. A success in influencing the target audience.
Exactly. I suspect this whole episode with Ukraine and Russia has a lot to do with the White House needing a distraction from Biden's abysmal failure in pushing through his domestic agenda. Before this, news media in the US were all focused on Biden's inability to get BBB passed.
 

Arnies

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Exactly. I suspect this whole episode with Ukraine and Russia has a lot to do with the White House needing a distraction from Biden's abysmal failure in pushing through his domestic agenda. Before this, news media in the US were all focused on Biden's inability to get BBB passed.

The Invasion and Ukraine is legitimate issues bro. Ukraine has been killing ethnic russians or should i say the vengeful fanatical azov battlion were the once cleansening of ethnic russians for the Last 8 years put yourself in their situation you will understand how real this is hence all diplomacy failed because the crisis is to deep
 

Lnk111229

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Please Mr Putin, just over week the Lunar New Year is come. Can you keep us like 2 week before make any move?
 
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