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ZeEa5KPul

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The article includes this: "It ranks below India, and well below America, in the number of skilled ai coders relative to its population. These shortcomings are likely to persist, for three reasons."

I'm really curious where the source for India having more skilled ai coders than China comes from. Article looks like typical China bashing copium overflowing in The Economist.
Even if it's true, the simpletons at the Economist don't understand that it's to China's favour. All it means is that as advanced as China has become, it still has enormous room for further growth and expansion.
 

Topazchen

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The article includes this: "It ranks below India, and well below America, in the number of skilled ai coders relative to its population. These shortcomings are likely to persist, for three reasons."

I'm really curious where the source for India having more skilled ai coders than China comes from. Article looks like typical China bashing copium overflowing in The Economist.
The author also writes this
" about a third of the world’s top ai talent is from China, only a tenth actually works there"

Smh
 

taxiya

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The article includes this: "It ranks below India, and well below America, in the number of skilled ai coders relative to its population. These shortcomings are likely to persist, for three reasons."

I'm really curious where the source for India having more skilled ai coders than China comes from. Article looks like typical China bashing copium overflowing in The Economist.
That metric is absolutely nothing. In China nowadays, coders are called "码农", coding farmers, it is a word derived from workers from the villages working in the blood and sweat factories, meaning low to no skills. If we take away the negativa aspect of the word, one can see that a plain coder isn't much of talent or competence, a high school teenager can be a good coder. The real competence is the ability to analyse the goal, break it down to individual tasks and organize the architecture that won't lead to a coding spaghetti in the product life cycle. The actual work of writing "if else then" is job for high school kid.

In my own work in a large western company that employs large number of engineers all over the world, I have not seen evidence that supports the article's conclusion.
 

SanWenYu

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Who cares about the" skilled AI coder relative to its population" that's a metric China and India will always lose. Probably why they are using the metric.

What's more interesting is how many skilled AI coders China has in total compared too say the US. If China has 3000 and the US 1200 then I would know it if I was a betting man I would place my money on China.
When China was behind in the size of a statistical data, it was the scale that mattered the most. China sucked.

When China becomes the largest in size of the field, it is now all about the per capita average. China is losing.

By the time China will have passed over even in average per capita, that field will become irrelevent and disappear from their talks. China will not win still.
 

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Can China create a world-beating AI industry?​

Don’t hold your breath​

“South of the Huai river few geese can be seen through the rain and snow.” In classical Chinese this verse is a breakthrough—not in literature but in computing power. The line, composed by an artificial intelligence (ai) language model called Wu Dao 2.0, is indistinguishable in metre and tone from ancient poetry. The lab that built the software, the Beijing Academy of Artificial Intelligence (baai), challenges visitors to its website to distinguish between Wu Dao and flesh-and-blood 8th-century masters. Anecdotal evidence suggests that it fools most testers.

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The Economist is awful, but it is true that only 1 in 10 top tier researchers in AI works in China, even though a third of them come from China. And overall, over half of top-tier researchers don't work in their home country. The US is great at leeching off top tier researchers from other countries. For China it's an issue of attracting top tier talent who may not be Chinese to come and work in China. Covid is certainly making things worse.
 

Overbom

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For China it's an issue of attracting top tier talent who may not be Chinese to come and work in China. Covid is certainly making things worse.
This is an ongoing issue which has been recently directly highlighted by Xi himself

From my understanding, tier-1 cities are ramping up their efforts for attracting top-talent

The frontrunner is Shanghai which has always been more international-oriented and thus easier for foreign talent to adapt
 
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