Chinese submarines thread

[rhino123]

They probably lifted the submarine to the surface with pontoons or something else, and entered via the emergency escape hatches, which on Western and Russian submarines, can be opened from the outside.

Sorry, I didn't get to read the rest of the pages on this topic, but could you elaborate more on the Ming accident? I am really interested in it. What happen actually, why did the crew die?

Thanks in advance.

 

[Finn McCool]

Sorry, I didn't get to read the rest of the pages on this topic, but could you elaborate more on the Ming accident? I am really interested in it. What happen actually, why did the crew die?

Thanks in advance.

Yeah how did I miss this? It sounds pretty significant to me. Of course, the PLAN probably tried to bury the incident.

May 02, 2003

China Submarine Mishap During Drill Kills All 70 Sailors Aboard

In-Depth Coverage By Todd Zeranski

Beijing, May 3 (Bloomberg) -- All 70 sailors were killed when a mechanical problem caused an accident aboard a Chinese Navy submarine, China's official Xinhua News Agency reported, in the deadliest sub disaster since Russia's Kursk sank in 2000.

The No. 361 conventionally powered submarine was taking part in a drill east of the Neichangshan Islands off the northeast coast of China when the mishap occurred, Xinhua reported.

The sub has been towed back to its base, whose location Xinhua didn't identify. It was operating in Chinese waters. The nature of the mechanical difficulty that overwhelmed the vessel and killed the crew wasn't specified.

``This is the first loss of a sub I've heard of, though others are rumored,'' said Bernard Cole, a retired U.S. Navy captain and author of the book, ``The Great Wall at Sea: China's Navy Enters the 21st Century.''

``The Chinese are pretty secretive,'' Cole said. ``It surprises me they made this public.''

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[snake65]

My 5 cents. Running diesels via snorkel and due to mechanical failure the exaust fumes were sucked in the ship, poisoning the crew.

 

[maozedong]

The incident, the Chinese official press reported immediately, and this surprised me, because China's past have also done a submarine accident,but has never officially publicly reported.
The accident, the submarine is intact, but all the crew members died, the submarine was found by fishermen, and then towed back to base,
In the TV news, I saw then entered the Central Military Commission Chairman Jiang Zemin personally inspected inside the submarine, no damage inside the submarine, it seems that normal.
At that time, speculation is that the submarine off from the test mute accident, the submarine suddenly internal hypoxia( very closed to Snake65 opinion ),and there are rumors submarine violated the regulations, allow too much access to submarine - of course this is not the main reason for the accident.
The incident so that the commander of the Navy Shi Yunsheng duties were removed.
As for the accident because testing AIP, I just can tell.

 

[flyzies]

My 5 cents. Running diesels via snorkel and due to mechanical failure the exaust fumes were sucked in the ship, poisoning the crew.

That's what media here reported the cause was, and it based its reports on the "experts" opinion. But of course the real cause was never "officially" unveiled by China...

 

[crobato]

It kind of reminds me of the KJ-200 crash in the way that the sub has a bit more people on board, which I suspect may be technicians and engineers. And the way it was publicized, how the top officials show their concerns for the "martyrs" and all. Its not hard to imagine the sub being used as a testbed, given the history that Mings are often used as test beds.

 

[crobato]

This has to be either an 093 or 094's nose. Seems like tropical seas.

 

[kickars]

Is that a dolphin in front of the sub's nose?

 

[BlueSeadragon]

Considering that it stated Yuan set a dpeth record for a conventional submarine, I'm guessing this is going to be one advance submarine. It looks like Song is already getting mass produced, so China is making sure that Yuan finishes all of its tests before being formally revealed.

1) The Song is apparently no longer in production. But there are two more Yuan (modified) nearing completion - so expect more of this class.

2) It is impossible for a submarine of this sort to set a depth record for a conventional submarine - because the record would require a wholly different configuration. It COULD set a record for a military type (vice research type) conventional submarine. I would not want to ride on it when it did!

 

[Riverman]

They have already stopped Song production early as last year. Actually I'm a bit surprised they stopped since by PLA measure, it is a successful design (after all the mods). The Yuan had initial setbacks being a new design, so it took a little time to figure things out. But that's typical of all new designs. Some of this new and unchartered territory is probably because the Yuan is reported to be using AIP. Now it seems the Yuan is fixed and that's where the production is going.

Does anyone have evidence that the production relly stopped in 2007? And if it did so....how many submarines of the Type-39 class was finaly constructed?