Discussing Biden's Potential China Policy

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horse

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Afghanistan is not Taiwan, not to mention Japan or South Korea. A hegemon's job is save up resources to fight and defeat the biggest challenger, not to waste them fighting much smaller and negligible powers.

War is still war.

People bleed and die.

If they could not hack it the last time against a bunch guys running around with AK-47s and no shoes, how can anyone expect them to hack it this time, when there is actually an opponent who will give back it to them, their own high intensity warfare.
 

ChongqingHotPot92

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Maybe not a full blockade.

Maybe some harassment of ships approaching Taiwan harbors.

More flights that bracket the island.

More live artillery exercises.

The war will only start if the PRC takes over all of the outlying islands. If they do that, then that is a certain prelude to war.

Also, the war will not start now, in October and the winter months because of rough seas.

We wait and see.
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Well, those Pentagon Wargames deliberately exaggerate adversaries' capabilities to better train US troops.
 

Sleepyjam

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Well, if Washington does not act according to the new commitment, then Japan and South Korea (maybe Australia as well) would simply develop their own nuclear deterrence and pursue independence foreign policies, putting an end to Washington's hegemony. This would be something completely unacceptable to Washington's elites.
If US followed with this new commitment and gets Japan and SK nuked then it would push them to pursue independent policies as well assuming they survive.
 

ChongqingHotPot92

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War is still war.

People bleed and die.

If they could not hack it the last time against a bunch guys running around with AK-47s and no shoes, how can anyone expect them to hack it this time, when there is actually an opponent who will give back it to them, their own high intensity warfare.
Because there is no need for Washington's even waste time chasing around bunch of suicidal thugs with AK-47s. These guys won't put an end to Washington's hegemonic position. However, if Washington could check China through Taiwan (as much as victory is far from guaranteed), that would be a risk worth the gamble. It is why prior to 1914, Britain focused nearly all of its resources on Germany.
 

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Well, those Pentagon Wargames deliberately exaggerate adversaries' capabilities to better train US troops.

How do you expect the Americans to establish air dominance in and around the areas of Taiwan.

If the Americans cannot have air dominance, they ain't coming to fight.

Period.

So let's hear it. How will the American establish air dominance.

Once air dominance was discontinued in we-know-where, Taliban won easily.
 

ChongqingHotPot92

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So let's hear it. How will the American establish air dominance.

Once air dominance was discontinued in we-know-where, Taliban won easily.
By knocking Chinese airfields using Tomahawks launched from submarines patrolling the region, as well as cyber attacks against China's power infrastructures and air traffic control. Assuming dozens of B-1Bs took off before Guam's runways were to be plowed, those B-1s could launch another barrage of JASSM-ERs to keep Chinese airfields inoperable for hours. Without airpower, China could only rely on the PLARF, but 1500-2000 missiles could run out within days. Then there's the PLA Navy, which could become sitting ducks in the face of US submarines should the former loses air support (Y-8 anti-submarine aircrafts).

Just playing devil's advocate.
 

AssassinsMace

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Wow. It's so easy to defeat China. I wonder why they haven't started the war already. I always hear China is worse than Nazi Germany. What's holding the US back? Maybe because of fear of losing what they have especially their lives. China's first missile barrage will take's out Taiwan high tech industry. After that Taiwan becomes worthless to fight for. Remember Hong Kongers thought they were worth fighting for too.
 

gadgetcool5

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A war would be a disaster. IMO both sides should take efforts to step back from the brink, and determine a long term political settlement of the entire question. If Taiwanese are China's compatriots, Chinese should not wish to see them hurt either.
 

Bellum_Romanum

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And conversely Taiwan is not Afghanistan but an integral part of China. Something that you as a Chinese person knows intimately. No Chinese leaders Communist or not will be able to allow a defacfo independence of Taiwan for the same flipping reason that U.S. could not and didn't allow the secession of Southern states from the Union hence the U.S. Civil War. The same reason Catalonia isn't an independent state from Spain.

The talk of nuclear is not a one way street as if to suggest that the U.S. can put a scare to China from exercising military moves against Taiwan due to a nuclear blackmail and or naively believing that if such drastic actions were to be taken by the U.S. that a guaranteed nuclear retaliation of greater proportion of death and destruction against America wouldn't commenced or that it could be prevented from happening is at the height of extreme hubris.

No country and especially not China should be subjected to or be dictated by any other country on what it can and can't do with respect to it's national sovereignity. America was afforded and accorded all the freedom and leeway to conduct her domestic and foreign policy business unimpeded from any external powers and every leaders of that country have expressed it so from Monroe to Biden.


Afghanistan is not Taiwan, not to mention Japan or South Korea. A hegemon's job is save up resources to fight and defeat the biggest challenger, not to waste them fighting much smaller and negligible powers.
 
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