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[taxiya]

The only issue with that is that previously, industrialisation realisation was soon followed by de-industrialisation as western economies outsourced manufacturing and moved on to services. Which have been proven to be a major strategic error. One that China is determined to not repeat.

So long as China continues to be the factory of the world, its appetite for raw materials, including Iron Ore, will not decrease fundamentally.

Recycling will yield significant savings, but that will only be short term and diminishing as China depletes its existing scarp heaps while it continues to ship out newly produced products to the rest of the world.

The only way recycling might be viable long term is if China allows imports of scrap waste again. But that’s a very dubious solution.

I could not find the source that I read. It was a youtube video. Anyway, I searched around and here is something I collected.

The US's peak steal possesion per person was 8.8t, UK 7.6t，Japan 10.5t，South Korea 9.5t. China in 2020 is 6.9t if I remember correctly. It is projected that China will reach 10t by 2028 according to the current production trend.

This figure is for domestic usage only. It means all future consumption for China can be recycled through this saving (about 10t per person).

To remain "world factory", China certainly should not use the 10t for exporting cars, ships and rail tracks. It has to come from imported steel or scrap steel or iron ore. I don't have data but Reuters reported in 2011 that China produced 690 million tonnes of steal, of which 40 million exported. Of course, the ships and cars that China exported were not counted in the 40 million. But it seems that the amount used for export is one tenth of China's production. So it seems that after China has enough savings, the required import for being world factory won't be much an issue any way. The import includes "粗钢" (raw steel) and scrapped steel besides iron ore. The raw steel production capacity isn't something China want to keep because of its low profit. The scrapped steel isn't poisonous and polluting garbage like China used to import. Many companies in the west and SK actually bid to buy them.

What happened in the past two decades is that China drastically increased iron ore import for domestic consumption and savings, not for making machines for export. Once China has enough savings, the iron ore import is going to drop drastically. That date is around 2028.

Now back to my original post about iron ore and Australia. For sustaining China's manufacturing competence, keep importing large quantity of iron ore isn't necessary. The small volume needed can be covered without Australia.

 

[Overbom]

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Question is if the Taliban are feeling merciful after having to wade through a bloody siege of Pansjir.

Bad news if the Taliban talk to them IMO. Taliban's conquest has been far more peaceful than it should be.

Yes it may sound crazy, but with such a peaceful conquest, it means that the Taliban didnt have the excuse of the war to clean up (not neccessarily kill) the previous administration military men, politicans, bureaucrats, businessmen.

Sometimes, before trying to build something new, you have to destroy the old.
The Taliban have not done this, and I suspect that this will cost them dearly in the future when the Gov is formed properly and starts trying to pass and implement new policies. They will face huge resistance from the remnants of the old administration.

Big mistake

 

[DarkStar]

Bad news if the Taliban talk to them IMO. Taliban's conquest has been far more peaceful than it should be.

Yes it may sound crazy, but with such a peaceful conquest, it means that the Taliban didnt have the excuse of the war to clean up (not neccessarily kill) the previous administration military men, politicans, bureaucrats, businessmen.

Sometimes, before trying to build something new, you have to destroy the old.
The Taliban have not done this, and I suspect that this will cost them dearly in the future when the Gov is formed properly and starts trying to pass and implement new policies. They will face huge resistance from the remnants of the old administration.

Big mistake

Purges can be necessary but there's a danger it could devolve into a "purity spiral" of massacres and besides, the Taliban owe their victory to being far more pluralistic than they were in the 90s; apparently they even have Tajiks in their ranks and not just pashtuns. They've rebranded themselves as an afghan nationalist organisation which is bound to be more promising than whatever the hell Ghani's "CEO of Afghanistan" shit was.

In other news, the anglo americans are trying to stay in Asia by passing themselves off as an "asia-pacific" nation, never mind all the genocides, exterminations and anti Chinese laws...

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1434413917619441667

It's clear the Anglos want to stay in Asia for various reasons:
1) To maintain white anglo supremacy by keeping Asia down, divided and at war.
2) Asia is where all the $$$'s at; Anglo america desperately needs asians to underwrite its own fiscal debacle.
3) middle aged, balding and fat white men would otherwise be involuntary celibates without Asia as their dumping ground for beta males.

 

[AndrewS]

I could not find the source that I read. It was a youtube video. Anyway, I searched around and here is something I collected.

The US's peak steal possesion per person was 8.8t, UK 7.6t，Japan 10.5t，South Korea 9.5t. China in 2020 is 6.9t if I remember correctly. It is projected that China will reach 10t by 2028 according to the current production trend.

This figure is for domestic usage only. It means all future consumption for China can be recycled through this saving (about 10t per person).

To remain "world factory", China certainly should not use the 10t for exporting cars, ships and rail tracks. It has to come from imported steel or scrap steel or iron ore. I don't have data but Reuters reported in 2011 that China produced 690 million tonnes of steal, of which 40 million exported. Of course, the ships and cars that China exported were not counted in the 40 million. But it seems that the amount used for export is one tenth of China's production. So it seems that after China has enough savings, the required import for being world factory won't be much an issue any way. The import includes "粗钢" (raw steel) and scrapped steel besides iron ore. The raw steel production capacity isn't something China want to keep because of its low profit. The scrapped steel isn't poisonous and polluting garbage like China used to import. Many companies in the west and SK actually bid to buy them.

What happened in the past two decades is that China drastically increased iron ore import for domestic consumption and savings, not for making machines for export. Once China has enough savings, the iron ore import is going to drop drastically. That date is around 2028.

Now back to my original post about iron ore and Australia. For sustaining China's manufacturing competence, keep importing large quantity of iron ore isn't necessary. The small volume needed can be covered without Australia.

2019 split on Chinese steel consumption for you below

AndrewS said:
I already did a back of the envelope calculation, and it doesn't look like Brazil is enough. Rationale below.

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In 2019, China imported 664 million tonnes of Australian iron ore. At a grade of 65%, that's enough to produce 431 million tonnes of steel.

In 2019, China produced 875 million tonnes of steel, which was split:

1. Domestic Construction: 488 million tonnes
2. Everything else (domestic consumption + exported products): 487 million tonnes

 

[Bellum_Romanum]

Now these British monkeys along with their media propagandists are now trying to attack China’s core identity as an old civilizational state. Something that's been started by another British propagandist Bill Hayton when he wrote the book The Invention of China. I have a feeling that these bastards are really trying to create some kind of friction and maybe find some kind of fault line within China's various ethnic groups to sow in their minds that China as one country only existed pretty recently. Man, these people are getting ever so desperate and are real losers, not to mention ignorant of Chinese history.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1434043860242604035

 

[BoraTas]

Taliban managing the air traffic

 

[solarz]

Now these British monkeys along with their media propagandists are now trying to attack China’s core identity as an old civilizational state. Something that's been started by another British propagandist Bill Hayton when he wrote the book The Invention of China. I have a feeling that these bastards are really trying to create some kind of friction and maybe find some kind of fault line within China's various ethnic groups to sow in their minds that China as one country only existed pretty recently. Man, these people are getting ever so desperate and are real losers, not to mention ignorant of Chinese history.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1434043860242604035

Sounds like something one of our forumites wrote. Must have been studying the same source.

 

[Kaeshmiri]

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Foul play or natural? Time will tell.

 

[DarkStar]

Germans would be in charge of the security of their own ambassador, could it be CIA sponsored? By compromised elements of the German secret service ?

 

[Maula Jatt]

So India is making an example out of Sri Lanka for rest of south Asia, be with us or this is what we'll turn you into

Doing this propoganda as in China is bringing debt trap into SA - so they're not good news your only option is India

This crisis mainly happened because Indian gov made it harder for thier tourists to visit Sri Lanka and they earn a lot of thier forex from Indian tourists

So goi decided to show Sri Lanka it's muscles

(Remember a somewhat pro India gov was removed and a more independent gov showed up in Sri Lanka - so this was Goi response to curb thier "independent" streak)