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AndrewS

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taxiya said:
"far greater and important" for whom and for what purpose?
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For China of course. As I said before, the rail routes are nice. But seaborne trade is far more important to China overall.


taxiya said:
Let me clarify myself again so we are talking about the same subject. My central point in the past number of replies is that the land section of BRI is NOT just meant for Europe but to develop China's western region through connecting Central Asia and Western Asia and Russia.

Staying within the premises, seaborne route does not have any advantage.

The highlighted text indicate that you are still thinking that Central Asia is just a passage serving Europe from China. This is a point that I have been repeatedly object, because China sees Central Asia as a new future not just a passage.

You may keep your opinion, but that seems to me is not what China intended for BRI.
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Uh no. I think it's obvious that the land routes can serve many stations in Asia.

But if you look at transport volumes leaving Urumqi, it's mainly to Europe, although there are other trains termination points.
 
2handedswordsman

2handedswordsman

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Overbom said:
Definetely with you on that. The EU Parliament has minimal to zero *actual* power. The real power is on the member states.

So the US can make the Parliament pass all the motions they want against China, however the real action depends on the heads of state of every country.

What I am most worried is German Elections. It seems that their stance towards China will turn more hawkish. Add it to France's Little Napoleon delusions and supporting Taiwan on participating on international organisations and it is bad news.

We will see how much their economy will allow them to turn against China.
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That is the key to understand why EU expands to east Europe. It's military goal is to contain Russia and cut it's strategic influence and then to exploit the weak low income countries of east Europe. It's easy to expand your "tentacles" and squeeze those countries when there are no taxes between and use the same currency (no devaluation option to make gains by export of goods). The big fish eat the small, and there's no second option because you simple signed to join the EU. Don't forget EU has about 800 mil ppl. While big fishes went mad cannibalising other EU members they forgot to seal the loopholes they created to sell up the national wealth of weak members, China took the opportunity and got in the game to serve it's own interest. Chinese bids where unbeatable from European capital, so naturally China put a strong foot on Europe (hi tech,ports,energy) so EU had either to seal the doors for the capital flow from China and face the retaliation or to make the deal (China sould minimize purchases on EU strategic sectors ). In the big EU "neighbourhood" it's kinda better for Deutsche Telekom to bid the Greek Telecom Company than a Chinese bidder. lol . Anyway this is another shortseeing planning. They cannot turn full on against China ( if there was a drop of logic on this ) not because of the lack on knowledge but due to systemic incompetence, just like USA. Deemed to loose
 
Phead128

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AssassinsMace said:

Even the leftiest of liberals will lie to through their teeth. Biden is following Obama's playbook. A lot of inspirational speeches but little substance behind it.
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Who the heck watches Rising anymore after Sogger and Krystal left the show....and ALL the lefty liberals attack Obama/Biden/Trump for throwing Snowden under the bus. Also, Ex-Obama officials are not lefty liberals...they are corporate centrist elitists in bed with CIA and deep state.
 
AssassinsMace

AssassinsMace

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Phead128 said:
Who the heck watches Rising anymore after Sogger and Krystal left the show....and ALL the lefty liberals attack Obama/Biden/Trump for throwing Snowden under the bus. Also, Ex-Obama officials are not lefty liberals...they are corporate centrist elitists in bed with CIA and deep state.
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Obama is seen as liberal and he had to have okayed it.
 
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