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Bellum_Romanum

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I really don't think that's an acceptable excuse but; plenty of other talented Chinese scientists got passed over for promotion amidst favouritism and ultracomeptitive environments yet they still didn't turn traitor and run to the anglos- or look to the returning Sea Turtles who returned to China to contribute to China's development.

No, it's a deficiency of character, and sadly the sci/medical sector has no shortage of such shallow petty people; having worked in research in the US in the past i can attest that the egos of research scientists and the pettiness from years of being bullied in high school translates to some extremely toxic environments in the research and medical science world.
I wrote something more critical of the guy but I decided to nixed the heavily profanity laced tirade against the man just because lol...It's people like that f..ker that reminds me always why and or how China’s dynastic empires fell or even during the time of Dr.Sun Yat Sen where personal aggrandizements of the people who claimed to share his dreams and goals for China trumped actually just wanted power and fame.
 

Bellum_Romanum

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I really don't think that's an acceptable excuse but; plenty of other talented Chinese scientists got passed over for promotion amidst favouritism and ultracomeptitive environments yet they still didn't turn traitor and run to the anglos- or look to the returning Sea Turtles who returned to China to contribute to China's development.

No, it's a deficiency of character, and sadly the sci/medical sector has no shortage of such shallow petty people; having worked in research in the US in the past i can attest that the egos of research scientists and the pettiness from years of being bullied in high school translates to some extremely toxic environments in the research and medical science world.
i can attest that the egos of research scientists and the pettiness from years of being bullied in high school translates to some extremely toxic environments in the research and medical science world.
So it's like the revenge of the nerds. What made the environment toxic? Were they being more serial sexual harassers and deviants contrary to what most people assumed of those geniuses? All those pent up anger to get back against those whom they felt wronged them must be so intense.
 

DarkStar

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So it's like the revenge of the nerds. What made the environment toxic? Were they being more serial sexual harassers and deviants contrary to what most people assumed of those geniuses? All those pent up anger to get back against those whom they felt wronged them must be so intense.
In a manner of speaking yes, that combined with the power that comes from being a figure of authority over grad students and wielding the power of making or breaking academic careers over these students tends to lead to a crapload of abuse.

People think scientists are like gentlemen or einstein types; Nup, they're more like 4chan with autism dialled to 11. The closest thing i can describe that would be comparable would be the stereotype of the "techbros" of silicon valley; bullied as a kid in primary and high school, probably a virgin until postgrad who, once he gets his 300k type job, funding from venture capitalists, and with the power that comes with his position and the ego to boot, he becomes incredibly insufferable. At conventions, they have everyone kissing their ass because you have sales reps wanting to flog their 800,000+ dollar lab machines/equipment along with them nitpicking each others' research akin to a forum thread debate but which they'll call "health scientific debate" but you can see it's totally driven by ego.

Academia in the anglosphere, since i cannot speak for China, has become more about how to profit from the research and monetise it (reason why Stanford is so close to silicon valley and why Stanford medical school requires its students to have some sort of project conducive to VC funding) than actually trying to do research that benefits humanity.
 

Bellum_Romanum

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In a manner of speaking yes, that combined with the power that comes from being a figure of authority over grad students and wielding the power of making or breaking academic careers over these students tends to lead to a crapload of abuse.

People think scientists are like gentlemen or einstein types; Nup, they're more like 4chan with autism dialled to 11. The closest thing i can describe that would be comparable would be the stereotype of the "techbros" of silicon valley; bullied as a kid in primary and high school, probably a virgin until postgrad who, once he gets his 300k type job, funding from venture capitalists, and with the power that comes with his position and the ego to boot, he becomes incredibly insufferable. At conventions, they have everyone kissing their ass because you have sales reps wanting to flog their 800,000+ dollar lab machines/equipment along with them nitpicking each others' research akin to a forum thread debate but which they'll call "health scientific debate" but you can see it's totally driven by ego.

Academia in the anglosphere, since i cannot speak for China, has become more about how to profit from the research and monetise it (reason why Stanford is so close to silicon valley and why Stanford medical school requires its students to have some sort of project conducive to VC funding) than actually trying to do research that benefits humanity.
Well, not to get so OT here but based on personal anecdotal experience, those types (nerds, quite ones, introverts) are beyond kinky on the bedroom. The loud mouthes or the prettier one's are not what as advertised to say the least. That's all am going to say. Full stop.
 

DarkStar

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And it begins. Afghanistan refugees will be a lightning rod in many elections in a lot of these so called human rights monkeys in the west.

It was only 2 years ago that Brenton Tarrant committed his
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at a mosque in Christchurch;
I can just as easily see reprisals and counter-reprisals from Tarrant types as well as IS sympathisers.
 
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