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supersnoop

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The Canadian Military was doing that? Or are you describing an experience from a Canadian fellow that went to school in the U.S. because I know that U.S. military were throwing insane amounts of money to people with the right technical expertise to attract those types of people. But as far as the Canadian military I don't think they had such program for Canadian recruits because Canadian military wasn't and isn't really that well funded.
Personal experience. I was a former reservist, so recruiter had talked to me when doing some paperwork.

In demand technical grads could get 5 figure signing bonus (I can't remember all the levels now, but I think it was from $20K to $50K). Half paid up front, the other half paid at the end of the contract.
MDs were being offered 6 figures all payable up front.

Basic bonus of five figures is not "insane" money, maybe just 25% over regular civilian job, but it's still good money. Plus that's not including those sweeteners for overseas duty.

The Canadian military funding is not great, but its not awful. It's kind of a myth that the military is terribly underfunded. Some of the issue (my opinion) stems from a very long drawn out procurement process that emphasizes (rightly or wrongly depending on your opinion) Made in Canada options.

For regular troops, actually the pay is quite good. I believe #3 in NATO.
Even regular green private with high school diploma gets CA$35,000/year now, I think an American private is only about US$20,000 (currency conversion is pointless because Americans are not converting that money).

I have the privilege to decline such mercenary work, but if my financial/family situation was less fortunate, it would be hard to pass up.
 

Temstar

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Latest 观棋有语 has some interesting detail. One of their listerner (the dude in Kabul who previously reported the Taliban sneak attack many days back) reports seeing Taliban having captured MANPAD from ANA and using them to toy with military aircraft at the airport. They would lock onto planes and not fire to coax them into unloading all the flairs and perform evasive manoeuvres.
 

Bellum_Romanum

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Personal experience. I was a former reservist, so recruiter had talked to me when doing some paperwork.

In demand technical grads could get 5 figure signing bonus (I can't remember all the levels now, but I think it was from $20K to $50K). Half paid up front, the other half paid at the end of the contract.
MDs were being offered 6 figures all payable up front.

Basic bonus of five figures is not "insane" money, maybe just 25% over regular civilian job, but it's still good money. Plus that's not including those sweeteners for overseas duty.

The Canadian military funding is not great, but its not awful. It's kind of a myth that the military is terribly underfunded. Some of the issue (my opinion) stems from a very long drawn out procurement process that emphasizes (rightly or wrongly depending on your opinion) Made in Canada options.

For regular troops, actually the pay is quite good. I believe #3 in NATO.
Even regular green private with high school diploma gets CA$35,000/year now, I think an American private is only about US$20,000 (currency conversion is pointless because Americans are not converting that money).

I have the privilege to decline such mercenary work, but if my financial/family situation was less fortunate, it would be hard to pass up.
Thank you for detailing your experience and for taking the time to reply to my question. I made a comment about Canadian military not that well funded based on the conversations I had with two Canadian military officers who were doing some cadet lessons for Army Cadet programs. At that time, the PM was Stephen Harper a fellow that was perceived to be more supportive of the Canadian military so it was a surprise to me when during the course of my conversation with those officers about Canadian fundings being better under the conservative government their answer was shocking to say the least. They basically asserted that there's not enough ammunitions, spare parts for tanks, and or whatever the money being procured isn't really enough to cover what was essentially decades of neglect from the previous governments and for the missions being tasked to the Canadian Armed forces being used as the so-called "Peacekeepers" since Canadians are quite sensitive being seen or to be perceive as an aggressive military.
 

Bellum_Romanum

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The concept entered the public discourse in the early 2000s when China's GDP was less than one-fifth that of the U.S. while facing a myriad of domestic problems. A group of Chinese intellectuals rose to fame for criticizing the authorities' initial mishandling of the SARS epidemic in 2003 and crackdown on migrant vendors in Chinese city streets.

Since then, they repeatedly faulted China's political system for things that went wrong in the country while fostering the impression that an American-style government would be more efficient, humane and just.

But events in 2020 and 2021 dispelled that myth, Han said, citing the jaw-dropping death toll from the COVID-19 pandemic in the U.S., the widespread anti-racism protests following the police killing of George Floyd, and a presidential election that led to a riot at the heart of U.S. political institutions....




 
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