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sinophilia

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Ordinary Afghan civilians are not at risk. The Taliban have controlled most of the country for months, have they set up concentration camps and human ovens?

Don’t fall for western MSM propaganda BS. Much of the western scaremongering about the Taliban are essentially the same recycled hysterics and hyperbolic imagined exaggerated acts of pure evil and wonton savagery they smear the victors every time they ‘loose’ a country since Mao took China, they were driven from Vietnam and now Afghanistan.

The people at the airport are not innocent ordinary Afghan civilians. They are willing western collaborators and many of the same people who were torturing and murdering suspected Taliban fighters under western supervision and doing their dirty wet work so the Americans can keep their own hands clean.

I mean just look at that video of the people clinging onto the plane. Anyone with a shred of decency and compassion would be screaming at them to get off, but the guy filming was literally laughing at their impending doom like it was a hilarious joke. That speaks volumes about the character of a lot of the people there trying to follow their masters out.

You are misunderstanding me. Thought I made it clear I have no sympathy for the Americans or their Anglo relatives.

Seeing civilians die, even if they collaborated for $50 or whatever, still disgusts me, especially when you see how cowardly the Westerners are in leaving those people behind.

Even the collaborators aren’t pro-Western, they just wanted to make some money in what felt like a harmless venture to them. They basically scammed the Americans into giving them money to prop up some fake government and military, and look at the state of the military now, they never really sought to fight for America. They immediately threw in the towel the moment America pulled out.

You are unintentionally promoting Western propaganda by putting any attention/blame on Afghans at this critical moment when the whole world should be focused on the weakness, cowardliness, and sociopathic cruelty of the Americans and their puppet Anglo relatives.

Giving Americans the excuse of saying “SEE!? Our collaborators *ahem* our friends clearly wanted democracy and freedumb but they were too weak and cowardly”. You are supporting these BS excuses even if unintentionally. The ENTIRE blame for all of this including the cruel way they left their collaborators to perform desperate acts by jumping onto the outside of a plane for safety should rest on Americans and their Anglo cousins.

Some poor Afghan shmhck harmlessly taking $50 from an American to say “we luv amarikka!” shouldn’t be blamed. Also the guy laughing probably had no idea it would lead to their deaths. I don’t think you understand how clueless and innocent many of these people are. Many of them laughed when they were told people had landed on the Moon. Most never even heard of America or 9/11 before 2001. Most have never flown on a people, did you think those guys on the landing gear retractor knew they’d be dying? No, completely clueless.

And the Americans couldn’t care less. That’s the knowledge that should be promoted. Not Afghan collaborator weakness as the excuse for American failure.
 
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They won’t. They will simply leave and the when the heat dies down, they will try to cause more trouble else where like usually with no cares in the world and with no reflection on themselves whatsoever. The only way to get these bastards to change in any way, is if an invasion happens to the USA with the combined forces of Russia, China, the Middle East and Africa going after the leadership and deep state and not stopping until these parasites are completely wiped out without mercy. Only then will the USA be forced to understand what it is like to suffer like their victims because right now, they are not caring one bit about the Afghan people they have harmed for no reason


Yes I know that the USA is incapable of being responsible. Just saying that the consequences of their "human rights" and "democracy" lies should be laid out for all to see. USA owns and is responsible for this mess.

I feel more sorry for all the killings, torture, genocide, sufferings and damages the USA caused on the Afghan Nation.
 
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Kaeshmiri

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Many of them are just clueless poverty ridden people living in a misery that doesn’t exist anymore outside of sub-Saharan Africa (with the possible exception of Yemen).

Look at this:


They don’t even realize the landing gear would go up and the thing they’re sitting on will retract and they’ll all die. Definitely more than 3 deaths.

This should be seen in the context of American savagery, these were their collaborators but they willingly let them die if they don’t have an application processed stamped and approved.
If a person would commit suicide and prefer falling to his death rather than face Taliban then rest assured he's a person who has committed grave acts and now fears judgment from Taliban.
When 40 million Afghans have stayed put then who exactly are these few thousands who would rather die escaping than face Taliban? What have they done?
 

sinophilia

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If a person would commit suicide and prefer falling to his death rather than face Taliban then rest assured he's a person who has committed grave acts and now fears judgment from Taliban.
When 40 million Afghans have stayed put then who exactly are these few thousands who would rather die escaping than face Taliban? What have they done?

Lots of them are just messing around, or looking for a free ride to a rich country. Don’t just automatically assume everyone at the airport is a 300 IQ Jai Hind White-loving traitor.

But.. let’s assume they were, the attention should still be on US incompetence, savagery, and sociopathic indifference to the plight of their supposed allies that (in the scenario you’re positing at least) sacrificed their lives for Americans and fought the Taliban.

Anything else would be taking some negative light away from the Americans and putting it on ethnic Pashtuns or Tajiks or Hazara.

Don’t give the Americans any excuse for their savagery, even if they were all collaborators (which many were not, just like many in fact almost all Mexicans crossing into the US are not spies or collaborators or allies).
 

Agnus

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If Afghanistan is at like Iranian levels of social conservatism, then that isn't so bad and much more acceptable. Let's hope that it is like that.
 

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August 15, 2021

Afghanistan is the most glaring proof of the American treachery. It’s a cautionary tale for others who incredibly still seem trusting in hitching their wagon to a U.S. alliance.

U.S. President Joe Biden said this week that he has “no regrets” about pulling American forces out of Afghanistan as the Taliban militants look set to over-run the entire Central Asian country. The lesson here is: anyone acting as a running dog for Washington does so at the peril of ultimate U.S. betrayal.

The U.S.-backed puppet regime in Kabul has done Washington’s bidding for nearly two decades. After 20 years of futile war at the cost of hundreds of thousands of Afghan lives and trillions of dollars, Uncle Sam has decided to pack up, get out and leave the Afghans to their miserable fate. As the Taliban
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one provincial capital after another, the U.S. intelligence agencies are
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that the Kabul regime could fall within a month. And callously, Biden this week
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the Afghans they have to do their own fighting.
Whatever happened to lofty American vows of “nation-building”? Or “fighting terrorism”, “defending democracy”, “protecting women’s rights”?

It’s a sordid story with much historical precedent illustrating how at the drop of a hat Uncle Sam is liable to hang erstwhile “allies” out to dry. As American elder statesman Henry Kissinger once noted, the U.S. doesn’t have permanent allies, it only has interests.
Some 46 years ago, the Fall of Saigon saw the United States scurry away from a corrupt puppet regime it had propped up in South Vietnam as the North Vietnamese communists finally routed the redundant American pawns.

A more recent example of callous betrayal by Washington was the throwing of Kurdish militants to the mercy of Turkey when the latter invaded northern Syria during the Trump presidency. Anyone who accepts American patronage must know that the small print in the contract always reads: to be dumped at any time of Uncle Sam’s choosing and convenience.

Afghanistan is the most glaring proof perhaps since the Fall of Saigon in 1975 of that American treachery. It’s a cautionary tale for others who incredibly still seem trusting in hitching their wagon to a U.S. alliance.

Ukraine, run by a venal regime in Kiev, appears slavishly willing to place all its fate under Washington’s whim. Centuries of common history with Russia are being sacrificed by the regime in Kiev all for the gain of Washington’s military benevolence. A seven-year civil war bankrolled by $2 billion in American military aid has destroyed the peace and prosperity of Ukraine as well as damage neighborly relations with Russia. We can be sure that when the imperial planners in Washington realize that their use of Ukraine as a pawn against Russia has become futile, then the people of Ukraine will be dropped to sort out the chronic mess.

Likewise the American lackeys in the Baltic states. They act as running dogs for Washington to spoil relations between Russia and the European Union. For years, the Baltic countries have objected to the Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline from Russia, appealing instead for more expensive and environmentally dirty U.S. gas exports. Overnight, Washington has decided such a policy is untenable and not worth antagonizing Germany and the rest of the EU. And just like that, the Baltic lackeys are left out in the cold looking like fools.
They never seem to learn though. This week Lithuania did Uncle Sam’s bidding to provoke China by announcing it would recognize Taiwan. That move
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Beijing because it undercuts the international One China Policy of accepting Taiwan as under Beijing’s sovereignty. China recalled its envoy from Vilnius and it has threatened punitive economic measures. As the EU’s top trading partner, it is reckless and self-defeating to incur China’s wrath. Lithuania and the rest of the EU could potentially be hit with economic losses – all for the sake of following Washington’s geopolitical agenda of hostility towards China.

Currently, the biggest caution of U.S. treachery must surely go to the renegade Chinese island territory of Taiwan. Beijing has
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that Washington’s provocative arms sales are fomenting separatist factions on the island. China has declared the right to invade Taiwan militarily and take back control by force. Such a move could ignite a war between the United States and China since Washington has repeatedly vowed to “defend” Taiwan.

But as the Afghan debacle reminds us, the chances are that Washington will leave the Taiwanese to their fate in a military confrontation with mainland China. There would be Chinese blood spilled on both sides before Beijing asserts its authority.
Afghanistan demonstrates with brutal clarity that there is not an iota of principle in Washington’s foreign policy and its military interventions. The lives of ordinary U.S. citizens are as expendable as those of foreign people as long as Washington’s interests of serving its corporate profits are deemed to be met. When those interests stop then the lives lost are flushed down the toilet like a nasty turd.
 
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