Ladakh Flash Point

[manqiangrexue]

In the modern age we have something known as online translations.

How would Indians who ambush unarmed negotiators like cavemen know what's in the modern age?

Its very easy.

Almost as easy as thwarting Indian military adventurism and outmedalling India at the Olympics.

Just relying on Indian independent sources is very prejudicial to the Chinese here. So non official Chinese sources should also be used.

China's media doesn't do much non-official. And also, China has simply released the casualties and pretty much has no further interest to discuss it. If 2 guys get into a bar fight and the heavyweight threw the stick-figure into the wall and left, he'd briefly say he pushed a little guy out of the way and that was that. Meanwhile, the skinny guy would wake up later and make up 100 excuses to everyone for why he went all in and ended up getting shoved aside like an item in somebody's way. That's why China's media is succinct and disinterested in making further commotion out of defeating a smaller, weaker, clearly incompetent foe while India's media is going on and on with excuses sandwiched between lies like an old lady with diarrhea falling down a winding staircase.

 

[twineedle]

Good

No. Chandragupta is regarded as the best king from mauryan dynasty, converted. Another great king from that dynasty was Ashoka who left hinduism for Buddhism.
That trend continued afterwards. Almost all Nobel prize winners from India in math, physics,chemistry was either non-hindu or renounced hinduism.
What i'm supposed to do with wiki links?

Bogus theory.
Major difference between Abrahamic religion & folk religion is existence of god.
It never had anything to do with many forms of God. In Buddhism it is not necessary to believe in supreme being.
In abrahamic religion, god's many forms have been given many names. The difference being in hinduism, every god has their own role. In abrahamic religion, it is not necessary for god to take physical forms to do his things.

Your initial assertion was that South Asia was not successful when ruled by Hindus. Yet the Mauryan Empire at its largest extent was ruled by a Hindu. Most of South Asia's greatest mathematicians such as Aryabhata and brahmagupta were hindus.

Also, there is a difference between the Mauryan Empire and the Gupta Empire, they were in different periods.

You are confusing different names of Gods with different forms. No Abrhamic religion believes in multiple forms of God. As I said before the closest example of this is the Holy Trinity in Christianity, but that is another different and controversial debate.
An example is that many Hindus choose to worship God in the form of an idol or even an animal such as a cow. None of that happens in a monotheistic religion.

 

[twineedle]

Uhuhuhu, but that doesn't explain why maratha went into their holes watching the britseys coming.

I just gave a damn , but you are gonna offend her majesty with your self made story.

Actually, the Marathas did defeat the British in the first Anglo Maratha war.

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[Nobaron]

outmedalling India at the Olympics.

That's cruel man, very cruel. Just because Cuba, Venezuela, Barmuda,south africa ranks above India, does nit mean you can say things like that.

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Ancients indians won many olympic & nobel medals

 

[j17wang]

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I think you should lay off the wikipedia, half the articles there are just battlegrounds now between BJP trolls and pakistanis/sikhs over stuff like love jihad, the nature of biryani (a muslim invention), farmers protests... Try not to quote from that since the articles change daily.

What is indisputable is that Ashoka created the largest Buddhist empire in south asia, which would only be surpassed by the size of the Mughal Muslim empire millennias later. Both were the apogee of Indian civilizations, neither of which are likely to be ever surpassed.

 

[Nobaron]

Your initial assertion was that South Asia was not successful when ruled by Hindus. Yet the Mauryan Empire at its largest extent was ruled by a Hindu. Most of South Asia's greatest mathematicians such as Aryabhata and brahmagupta were hindus.

My entire assertion is South Asia was never successfully ruled by Hindus. Mauryan empire reached it's peak when it left hindusism in time of Chandragupta & Ashoka. That's why we know their names. Nobody knows another names from that dynasty.
As for hindus, we know they successfully discovered zero,till then they are still successfully implementing the meaning of zero in their every day lives.
So it's all good.

You are confusing different names of Gods with different forms. No Abrhamic religion believes in multiple forms of God. As I said before the closest example of this is the Holy Trinity in Christianity, but that is another different and controversial debate.
An example is that many Hindus choose to worship God in the form of an idol or even an animal such as a cow. None of that happens in a monotheistic religion.

Dude, stop BSing. You go out there, consult with 1 billion of your fellow & come back with 1 single definition of whatever your faith is. Yesterday someone was preaching it is simply way of life. Today, many form of god, tomorrow something else.
Abrahamis religion doesn't believe in multiple form of god, they believe in multiple role of god.
In hinduism only, god needs to take physical form. What i never understood is, how can many form of one god make family and produce grand kids.

 

[jfy1155]

Welcome my Buddhist friend.
I see to fit in you have already started putting Indians, particularly Hindus down. You might last here.
You are in a environment in which the people practise might is right. All your well reasoned posts will go to waste.
And your history lesson is already well understood here but its a waste as this is a place for real politic. With well entrenched positions.
For example if you ask them why did the Chinese troops occupy common patrolling land , they will put it on Indians, totally ignoring the timeline.
I have tried to press them to answer as this site claims to be hosted in a US server but either they are afraid or know its a Chinese aggression and divert the topic.
So everything except the origin of the ladakh clash will be discussed.
My position is very clear. India has started arming itself subsequent to the clash, discarding the normal bureaucratic route.
Peace between the 2 countries was dependent on India not objecting to the constant Chinese nibbling at the borders. But Indian reaction like in doklam has humiliated the Chinese top leaders and the ladakh clash was probably a reaction.
Whatever the reason, the opaque Chinese are not going to give a straight answer, but atleast India has trashed the policy of depending on the goodwill of china to maintain peace on the borders.
Now peace will be maintained through good old military deterrence or maybe peace wont be maintained ?
With china's expansionist tendencies and india's determination to maintain the status quo, a more serious clash is inevitable
Que sera sera.

Unlike your favorite DFI, many of the Mods in this forum are foreigners and not Chinese. Many of them are real experts with credentials. They have written and published many articles for well known international media.

 

[Nobaron]

Actually, the Marathas did defeat the British in the first Anglo Maratha war.

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Actually Marathas were self defending here, Britishers were aggressor.
If Marathas were to exist, they could not fail. Marathas barely could stand against British in next war, it was Sikhs who did it.

 

[Nobaron]

Global times independent ? You do have a sense of humor.

Sense of humor you say?

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How is the gold medal doing?

 

[twineedle]

I think you should lay off the wikipedia, half the articles there are just battlegrounds now between BJP trolls and pakistanis/sikhs over stuff like love jihad, the nature of biryani (a muslim invention), farmers protests... Try not to quote from that since the articles change daily.

What is indisputable is that Ashoka created the largest Buddhist empire in south asia, which would only be surpassed by the size of the Mughal Muslim empire millennias later. Both were the apogee of Indian civilizations, neither of which are likely to be ever surpassed.

Wikipedia does provide links to all the sources cited, you can see for yourself. And most historians do refer to the Gupta period as the golden age of India, since that is when many of South Asia's greatest advances in Mathematics, astronomy, art, literature, medicine, etc. occurred.

Yes, the Mauryan Empire was the biggest Empire in South Asian history, and Ashok was responsible for spreading Buddhism to Southeast and Central Asia, making it a truly international religion.