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KYli

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Let just hope another wave in India would not cause another mutation like Delta that has devastated the world and especially the South and Southeast Asia.
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That last wave also lead to high levels of natural immunity in the country’s nearly 1.4 billion people -- a factor that could blunt the impact of the next surge. A national antibody survey by the Indian Council of Medical Research study last month found that two-thirds of Indians above the age of six had been exposed to the coronavirus.

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Sardaukar20

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Now, Republicans on the US House Foreign Affairs Committee have compiled material that reportedly shows the novel coronavirus escaped from the Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV) “sometime prior to September 12, 2019” – at which time, it claims, Chinese authorities brought in an army biological weapons expert and boosted security, ventilation, and air disinfection systems.

On that day, the WIV’s viral sequence database disappeared from the internet and the institute put out an announcement for “security services” at the lab to “handle the ‘registration and reception of foreign personnel,’” according to Fox News, which said it had obtained a copy of the report.

Another clincher for the report was based on testimony from an unnamed “former senior US official” who apparently said Major General Chen Wei, a biology and chemical weapon expert, took control of the WIV’s biosafety level-4 (BSL-4) lab in late 2019.

According to the news outlet, the report points to the timing of her appointment as proof that authorities were “concerned about the activity happening there as news of the virus was spreading.” It reasoned that this meant the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) “knew about the virus earlier, and that the outbreak began earlier.”

As further proof of this alternative timeline, the report points to news stories about athletes apparently developing Covid-like symptoms in November 2019 after participating at the World Military Games hosted in Wuhan in October 2019. The virus first gained international prominence in December 2019.

Gentlemen. Prepare yourself. The trailer has come out. This movie is gonna hit your TV/ipads/phones soon.
 

Tyler

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Let just hope another wave in India would not cause another mutation like Delta that has devastated the world and especially the South and Southeast Asia.
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India achieving herd immunity? How could they be sure? Do they even have enough testing?
 

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China reports 75 new COVID-19 cases as Delta cluster expands​

The number of new cases in mainland China, reported as of July 31, was up from 55 reported a day earlier.

The new cases included 53 domestically transmitted cases across eight provinces, bringing the total number of domestic cases in the past 10 days to 284 across 14 provinces and municipalities.

The current wave of the coronavirus in China, which is thought to have originated in the eastern city of Nanjing where most of the cases have been detected, has put health officials across the country on alert following months of little to no locally transmitted cases.

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Phead128

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The are now saying the current outbreak in Nanjing is worse since wuhan outbreak. They will shutdown Nanjing if it gets worse.
They need to ramp up mRNA vaccines sooner.

mRNA doesn't prevent outbreaks..... check out Israel with 60% vaccination rate (among top 10 in world among major nations) with the Pfizer mRNA vaccine.... they have huge outbreaks.... even at 70-80-90% vaccination rate, there will always be COVID cases due to variants.

mRNA's advantage is flexibility to adapt to new variants and scale faster... but the point of vaccines isn't to prevent infection, but prevent hospitalization and death.

All vaccines (whether Chinese or Western) have +80 to +90% efficacy at hospitalization prevention and death prevention against the Delta-variant.... that's the most important point.
 
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AndrewS

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mRNA doesn't prevent outbreaks..... check out Israel with 60% vaccination rate (among top 10 in world among major nations) with the Pfizer mRNA vaccine.... they have huge outbreaks.... even at 70-80-90% vaccination rate, there will always be COVID cases due to variants.

mRNA's advantage is flexibility to adapt to new variants and scale faster... but the point of vaccines isn't to prevent infection, but prevent hospitalization and death.

All vaccines (whether Chinese or Western) have +80 to +90% efficacy at hospitalization prevention and death prevention against the Delta-variant.... that's the most important point.

There are only so many variants than can develop and still be very infectious, because the virus spike protein still has to be compatible with a fixed receptor design in human cells.

So if you can get to 80-90% vaccination rate, with a few vaccines that target the different variants, an outbreak should completely die out.
 
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