2020/2021 Tokyo Summer Olympics

Heliox

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But..... not sure how true is this Hong Kong competitor is. He claims he lost his shirt sponsor. So he don't have a shirt to wear....... mmmmmm

I'm sure you can wear any shirt you like as long as it is not black! The colour of the used condoms!

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《東京2020奧運會羽毛球運動員球衣事宜》

香港羽毛球運動員正出戰東京2020奧運會,全力以赴,為港爭光。

伍家朗在出發奧運前因未能夠與現有贊助商YONEX 續約,以致未有球衣在奧運會出賽,並需自行安排球衣參賽。

香港羽毛球運動員正全力應付比賽,香港羽毛球總會理應為隊員做好各方面的支援和安排,讓球員可專心備戰和作賽。而在球衣問題上,香港羽毛球總會的安排實在有欠周全,以致社會人士產生不必要的誤會。

我們得悉,特區政府非常關注事件,並正全力協助總會解決有關問題。我們敦促總會儘快跟中國香港體育協會暨奧林匹克委員會協調,妥善解決球衣及各種其他問題,讓香港球員可以專心作賽。

我們將一如既往,全力支持香港運動員爭取佳績,為香港爭光。

Yeah, not sure what's at play here.

The deadlines for signing on the dotted line for atheletes/sponsor/federation/OC agreements extends to weeks and months prior to the event. There are multiple reminder including visual ones (where you have to do your headshots and team shots).

In any case, you can't quite wear any shirt. OC rules require that team gear be uniform in both overall design and colours. Logos are strictly policed in terms of location and size. That said, in extremis, it's not like he can't tape over the Yonex logo while donning the team kit and stay in compliance. It's not a good look but lots of athletes go that route because they can't be arsed to submit every bit of kit for approval or let go of a fav piece of kit because it doesn't quite comply with OC guidelines..
 

Heliox

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Should look at height charts of different countries if you want to stereotype (East) Asians as short. Plenty of other ethnicities have short people and they don't dominate Olympic weightlifting like China does.

That comment was made ceteris parabus. All other things being equal. Body length and muscularity plays a huge part in a sport that can be analysed as a function of power and fulcrums

As our dear colour commentator @manqiangrexue alludes, China and NK do have a very focused talent ID and training prog.
 

Heliox

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I understand the quarantine measures before entering Japan, but a 48 hour eviction order right after the games is plain disrespectful.

-5/+2 is de rigueur for the host requirements wrt to the hosting obligations towards visiting athletes. It's written into the OC agreement that each host abides to. Nothing disrespectful about it.

If the Indian athletes are being hard done by the quarantine requirements and they need the extra days, they should jolly well pay for it. All quarantine requirements of visitors in any country are borne by the visitors, not the host.

Contrary to popular perception, not all athletes are there for the whole ~2 weeks of the competition. It all boils down to budgets and the need for you to be there.

If your federation has the budget, it can extend the -5/+2 out of their own pocket via payment to the host nation (subject to availability). The per diem is stipulated in the agreement. If not, private bookings in designated hotels can be done along with request for passes/visas through the host OC. If visiting athletes can extend the above on the host dime, you can imagine how the budget will spiral out of control.

We've had experiences where we've missed the ceremony by a few days (because of -5/+2) and it was easier for us to take the official flights out, promptly fly in and board on our own dime and get the passes from our OC to attend the closing ceremony. The official channel was just too much red tape.
 

Fedupwithlies

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I hope you didn't have to put with alot of racist
BS during your competitions. Or discouragment.

And Yeah it was really bad at 2008. All sorts of insinuations and outright accusations. Swimming sites like swimswam etc filled with hate filled comments. Media openly asking questions. When Ye's case died down they moved on to Sun.

I hate hearing aussie commentatary but I have no choice since I can't get cctv stream to work. Case in point the race today, they shaded the Chinese swimmers and hyped up the aussie and American swimmer and rivalry like it's some kind of once in a century fight. Truly nauseating. Wanted to puke.

I hope you didn't have to put with alot of racist

Not to mention the disgraceful comments during opening ceremony

Yea. It wasn't just swimming websites back then...

I didn't have anything specifically racist, just shit like, achievements I had were downplayed and achievements others got were hyped up. You know, the exact same shit we see all the time.
 

manqiangrexue

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Yeah, people with well sculpted bodies tend not to do well in power events because they lack the strength at the body core to effectively be "strong" in this manner. Hence, visually, why most power event contestants are as you described - once you start packing muscles in that area, you no longer have that visually pleasing Vee shape and six packs.
It's more complicated than that. Like I said, sport scientists do no know why a heavy-squatting fat athlete will usually become weaker if he loses fat without losing muscle.

Chinese lifters like Chen Lijun and Zhang Jie (retired) have a V shape that can make a wine bottle opener jealous but they are champions and world-record holders. It is a combination of muscle composition, body proportion, and individual technique that creates unique lifters who otherwise would appear to be disadvantaged.
Height or lack of is an advantage here too no?
It's more about being big-boned and mesomorphic that gives you the powerful fulcrums and levers. Taller lifters tend to specialize in the snatch and be weaker in the clean and jerk and more prone to injury.

There is a trend in men's weightlifting that China dominates all of the men's weight classes except the heavy (where we are top 5) and the superheavy (no rank since we haven't let our superheavy come out to play for a long time due to quotas). This leads many people to say that Chinese, or Asians, are genetically smaller so we lack the numbers for talent selection at the top. However, this would be inadequate to explain that phenomenon because Chinese women dominate all weight classes including the superheavies where except for 1 Russian and 1 South Korean, all dominant lifters in the last few decades have come from China. The answer is in two parts. The first part is that although Chinese people are typically smaller than Eastern Europeans, China's vast population makes up for this. The true reason for China's absense in the men's superheavy is cultural. Chinese parents see sending the child to a weightlifting camp as throwing him/her to the wolves and is a last resort only used when they don't believe the child can become prosperous through normal education. (After all, the chances of a 6 year old, no matter how promising s/he may seem at the time, overcoming all the odds and injuries in training to become a champion weightlifer are still as slim as one can imagine.) In Chinese culture, large male children are most valuable, making parents most hesitant to give them up. If a poor rural couple had multiple children and were poorly equipped to provide for them, they would be most willing to give up their daughters regardless of size or robustness, then thier smaller bodied son, and try to concentrate their resources to keep and raise their large-sized son. This causes deprivation of large male athletes in Chinese men's weighlifting. The second part is that as we go up weight classes, the athletes are larger, taller, and have wider armspans. This allows better control of the bar, which is 2.2 meters without variation. Larger lifters have more intuitive control of the bar because they can grip it wider, meaning that the difference between an athlete trained since childhood and an athlete trained since his teenage years is less pronounced due to the reduced technical difficulty. So while Chinese athletes may be in the heavy and superheavy class, the advantage they have over foreign athletes trained at older ages is less than that of thier lighter counterparts, making them less dominant. Regardless, China's Yang Zhe still holds the snatch world record in the men's 109kg heavy class.
 
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getready

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Yes but silver is still wonderful achievement. Both events were upsets Chinese athletes were favourites coming in. And both were so close. In the women's butterfly event, chen was beaten by another asian, original from China and adopted by Canadian parents.

There is some backlash on social media regarding the reporting now. Abit if a non isuue but I guess people are bored.

And there is a mixed race asian in the same final only 18 years old from America so she is gonna to be a future star.

The diving synchro was so nail biting wow. I thought China had it in their final dive it was close to perfect but to be fair they messed up their 3rd dives and the Brits were good throughout. Still can't stand Tom Daley though
 

sinophilia

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Disappointing day for China so far. Barely lost gold in swimming and diving

Very sad how many people are choking in the finals, even after setting world records or Olympic records during qualifiers just a day before! WTF!?

China is deserving of so many more golds and overall medals than it has, but unlucky is unlucky. It is what it is, but I wonder if Chinese athletes get more nervous when it comes to medaling and choke more often. I mean it's happened so many times already.

A few times now Chinese athletes set WR or OR or at very least dominate during qualifiers or heats, only to do poorly in the finals. Has happened across a few sports now.
 

Tyler

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Very sad how many people are choking in the finals, even after setting world records or Olympic records during qualifiers just a day before! WTF!?

China is deserving of so many more golds and overall medals than it has, but unlucky is unlucky. It is what it is, but I wonder if Chinese athletes get more nervous when it comes to medaling and choke more often. I mean it's happened so many times already.

A few times now Chinese athletes set WR or OR or at very least dominate during qualifiers or heats, only to do poorly in the finals. Has happened across a few sports now.
Chinese athletes don't get more nervous, as claimed by the western media. The evident is that they got 51 gold medals in Beijing 2008 in front of the home crowd.
 

sinophilia

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Chinese athletes don't get more nervous, as claimed by the western media. The evident is that they got 51 gold medals in Beijing 2008 in front of the home crowd.

Do you have a source that proves this is a western media claim.
 
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