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Xizor

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It's not about rights it's about the safety of the citizens

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Violence is not allt

Also good job on actually reading his twitter
How did you like it ?
He certainly got my pity pennies because India is clearly abusing Tibetans and using them. He, besides being disenfranchised is screaming for a cause he won't win.
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Among other practices, the 1946 Act and the 1948 Order allow the government to limit employment opportunities, freedom of association, and a foreigner’s possessions. These pieces of legislation also restrict movement inside India and prohibit select activities, most of which are political.In fact, Tibetan refugees are only allowed in India on the condition that they abstain from political protests against China – a clear suppression of their right to political expression as afforded by the UDHR.Tibetans are not represented in the local and central legislature.

Hope things are clear now. See, you don't need to log into twitter and directly ask people. There are other ways.
 

Div

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He certainly got my pity pennies because India is clearly abusing Tibetans and using them. He, besides being disenfranchised is screaming for a cause he won't win.
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Among other practices, the 1946 Act and the 1948 Order allow the government to limit employment opportunities, freedom of association, and a foreigner’s possessions. These pieces of legislation also restrict movement inside India and prohibit select activities, most of which are political.In fact, Tibetan refugees are only allowed in India on the condition that they abstain from political protests against China – a clear suppression of their right to political expression as afforded by the UDHR.Tibetans are not represented in the local and central legislature.

Hope things are clear now. See, you don't need to log into twitter and directly ask people. There are other ways.
it is believed that communal relations between the Tibetans and the Indian host community have been improving

You can believe what you want glorious one

India has historically protected Tibetan human rights, but has recently been failing to
uphold those rights in an effort to strengthen relations with China. HRW successfully
reports on India’s infringement of Tibetan refugees rights pending the Chinese president’s
visit in a brief report that is as much a news article as it is a call to action.

You are right something should be done about this
 

Nobaron

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Optimal time for xi to have a referendum in tibet
Optimal time for Modi to have referendum in Dravida nadu, Sikkim, North East, Kashmir by real people of those places
elections in china and seal the common man's approval for his reign...
Election for what? To choose circus head like the circus india or US?
"Common people" doesn't even know how many states are there in their country.

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Circus is by people, of people, for people, you can name it democracy, or dramacracy.
On the other hand, the citizens are by country, of country, for country.
Xi is president of China, he doesnt need to kiss people's back & begging for vote like vote beggars in India or US.

Which makes me wonder, how would idea like US or India exist if people don't fantasize about them.

Don't dump failed idea you gratefully received from your master

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This nation was built on an idea the only nation in the world built on an idea. Every other nation was built on ethnicity, geography, religion, et cetera.

We were built on an idea: the idea of liberty and opportunity for all.


Anybody still wonder why "Americans" never mention America as their motherland?
 
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Gatekeeper

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The mine was left over from 62. It is important to remember that since 62, the area between Chushul and Kailash range was an effective buffer zone. Hence there were no disputes or issues there until 2020, despite China claiming the LAC runs west of the Colombo line in South Pangong.

If it's a buffer zone, then how come he crossed over? Surly if that's the case, the intend is to intrude!
 

jfy1155

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The mine was left over from 62. It is important to remember that since 62, the area between Chushul and Kailash range was an effective buffer zone. Hence there were no disputes or issues there until 2020, despite China claiming the LAC runs west of the Colombo line in South Pangong.

Do you have more details about that death? How does Indian military not know about the mines they laid down? It is very suspicious. The Tibetan news reported a different version about the incident.

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coolieno99

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tallgamer: " Though i didn't know calling Chinese communist was not liked by them. "

It's not so much of not liking it , but more of being inaccurate.

There are 698 Billionaires in China (Forbes March 2021)

There are 124 Fortune Global 500 business enterprises in China (Aug 2020)

China is best describe as CINO (Communist In Name Only)
 

twineedle

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tallgamer: " Though i didn't know calling Chinese communist was not liked by them. "

It's not so much of not liking it , but more of being inaccurate.

There are 698 Billionaires in China (Forbes March 2021)

There are 124 Fortune Global 500 business enterprises in China (Aug 2020)

China is best describe as CINO (Communist In Name Only)
If you go by the purely Marxist definition, there are no communist countries.
 

Inst

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@Mohsin77

IIRC the old conversation basically had Latenlazy not understanding how physics work, and how supersonic maneuverability provides zero advantages when it comes to dodging missiles / reducing NEZ.

You're also blowing up because I used a term of art in religious studies to describe Islam as having a particular trait. In conversations with other Muslims, I don't see offense if I bring up orthopraxy.

But if you don't want to discuss the topic, leave it at this. Stop derailing the thread.
 

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This is getting real off topic.

Indians just want to talk about things that are unquantifiable because it gives them leeway in their claims.

Basically Indians - India is better than China, just look at all this news but please ignore all that other stuff just look at what I'm showing you. See India is better and nicer country and culture than China's so therefore India is more entitled and deserving. China bad, India good. Okay?

Arguing in that way will never produce results. It's always a he said she said and in the complex real world, it is endless. There is plenty of good in India and bad in China and plenty of good in China and bad in India. Some people will never see and admit that and want the world to work their preferred way. Thankfully that's not how it operates.

You can't claim you are better because you say so yourself and therefore everyone should admit they're wrong about everything and you're right about everything.

That's for the off topic stuff. New members please just refrain from off topic posting? Moderators should clear up all the off-topic material. More fitting for a endless pol forum where sides will argue till the end of time about who is better and more virtuous. It's the foolish man's errand.
Like I said, there's a substantial population of Indians who have their heads screwed on correctly. Moreover, Bhakts / Indonats are not the majority of Indians because, like most populations, the majority tends to be apolitical. They're just extremely vocal and numerous since English is an official Indian language, and India has more English speakers than the United States.

If you check out, say, /r/India, you'll find left-wing and internationally minded Indians who actually thanked the Chinese for aid donations during their COVID-19 spike.
 
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