That's the same thing India said before it got whooped in the ass in 1962
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The Jai Hind superpowa forums must be overflowing with frustration for one to leak out like this. More false bravado and empty one liner proclamations. Jai Hind superdom, "Chimcom" and "Pakjaabi" are nothing and ball-less. I suppose you need great courage to rape defenseless and unarmed Kashmiri women but when facing armed men, Indians end up like this.
Enjoy the tea and the delusions of grandeur. That's all you have while you shit yourself down the road.
How come Indians don't have the balls to invade Pakistan or China? Let's see IAF use those Rafales. They haven't moved because they must be ball-less huh
- Jai Hind intellect returned. Explains why so many there live in unimaginable poverty and persecution from the Indian state and society. Keep criticising and teasing others with silly proclamations while you are bottom of the barrel.
Enjoy the tea and the delusions of grandeur. That's all you have while you shit yourself down the road.
How come Indians don't have the balls to invade Pakistan or China? Let's see IAF use those Rafales. They haven't moved because they must be ball-less huh
- Jai Hind intellect returned. Explains why so many there live in unimaginable poverty and persecution from the Indian state and society. Keep criticising and teasing others with silly proclamations while you are bottom of the barrel.
Shame there is no additional information on the missile failed how long after takeoff. Brahmos uses duel-engine system: rocket to boost the missile to a high velocity, after which the ramjet kicks into gear. My opinion is that the ramjet probably failed to start or sputtered after starting.
How many brahmos missiles has India actually test fired? I can't imagine they have test fired too many of them because the most critical parts of the missile, the ramjet and radar seeker, are sourced from Russia. Also, why hasn't Russia acquired this missile despite investing heavily in its development? They did well over a decade to acquire the Su-30SM, which incorporates technologies developed for the MKI variant. Are they doing something similar for the Brahmos missile or did they purely use the Indians as lab rats?
Russia has the missile the Brahmos is based on - Oniks.
The Oniks is like a modernised Granit in its philosophy - brute force. Certainly the greatest effectiveness during the Cold War 1980s and 90s especially in swarms delivered by supersonic bombers. India doesn't quite have the numbers or the delivery to make better use of its attribute - speed. Then again what is considered high speed has now moved well into the hypersonic range... even better, hypersonic and turning.
Like the Granit, the Oniks/Brahmos isn't particularly sophisticated in its trajectory, has a considerable radar signature, is a large target, and has no ability for terrain following or clever approaching and targeting like almost all modern cruise missiles do. It is still a formidable weapon considering its warhead size and pure speed in an era where HGVs are relatively rare and no replacement for these types of missiles yet. It's for these reasons, Indian military is so proud of the Brahmos. SCALP is a far superior weapon they now have though. I would imagine adversary forces would have far more difficulty tracking and intercepting SCALP than they would Brahmos. But these two are in different classes anyway.
Yikes, it looks like we may have underestimated DRDO...
If the system shown in the video is indeed the same one as the one from DRDO (which I believe to be the case since Indians never shy from showing off their best gear) then this system is not only operational, but has been deployed for actual drone defense!!!
I've got to say that Modi is truly a democratically elected man of the people to rely on this thing for public safety... Had Trump or Bolsonaro known about this, however, I think they'd be less thrilled
.In authoritarian China, they guard the safety of Emperor Xi-dada and foreign dignitaries with something that could slice through steel like butter.
Yikes, it looks like we may have underestimated DRDO...
If the system shown in the video is indeed the same one as the one from DRDO (which I believe to be the case since Indians never shy from showing off their best gear) then this system is not only operational, but has been deployed for actual drone defense!!!
I've got to say that Modi is truly a democratically elected man of the people to rely on this thing for public safety... Had Trump or Bolsonaro known about this, however, I think they'd be less thrilled
In authoritarian China, they guard the safety of Emperor Xi-dada and foreign dignitaries with something that could slice through steel like butter.
Like we reasoned, it isn't a mobile rig and no turret, just module which explains the beam moving around because the drone isn't perfectly stationary.
If this is the work of DRDO, unless they got fresh grads on this project with a budget of $10K and one week to produce that trial, the bankrollers need to fire those clowns. This is more a akin to a garage band attempt. No fire control which is the challenging part, no power unit (hooked up to the grid it seems), no idea how it would be mounted on what. Likely a commercial module (looks like a lab grade laser within a "custom" made box and lens) available from many online distributors. We had more impressive sets at the old campus physics building. Only shown to burn plastic after half a minute at undisclosed range... Indian government you need to fire those in charge of this. This is the equivalent of that "Indian" smartphone for $10 or something like that many years ago that was revealed to be an order from a Chinese OEM offering the absolute lowest price they could throw some bin parts together for $2 and so the Indian "company" claiming the feat can make a stupid profit from after a lot of marketing hype.
Look at that module at the bottom of that unit. It is smaller than a shoebox.
I can't believe this article is actually talking it up. If China or Russia came out with this, they'd be laughed out of the stratosphere by the Americans.
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India's biggest problem is that many of their gifted engineers and scientists move to United States (so called brain drain). Bangladesh has same problem.
I watched Nat Geo program about US drones many years ago and large portion of scientists working there were from subcontinent countries... being nation of immigrants has it's good points.
I watched Nat Geo program about US drones many years ago and large portion of scientists working there were from subcontinent countries... being nation of immigrants has it's good points.
Most of China's gifted scientists and engineers moved overseas as well. Brain drain isn't unique to India. Surely there are plenty of talented Indians left. It's an issue of organisation, not one of talent or funding. There is plenty enough of those in India actually since it does still enjoy the advantage of having a huge nominal population and collective wealth. They do have successful halo projects and incredibly gifted people (rarity for sure as it is everywhere). Pockets of excellence and extreme wealth in the midst of a failing nation because the majority is ignored. China has socialism and the revolution to thank for not ending up as a greater mess. Indian people may one day rise up against the unjust ways of their "superiors" in charge and correct that. For now, those at and around the top (along with those fooled into believing they have the aspirations) can talk and bullshit themselves and others as much they like. The reality is India has been better in its past and far better in its distant past.
Because the Russians took Indian money from Brahmos (glorified upgrade Yakhont/Onik missile) and used it to develop the much faster and deadly Zircon hypersonic missile for Russia. Inducting the Brahmos into Russia has no added value, Russia just took Indian cash to develop an even faster and powerful hypersonic missile.