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Gatekeeper

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True. The top political leadership seems to be immune to investigations and corruption busting. AFAIK from the Politburo have only gotten Zhou Yongkang who was like a walking corruption meme and thats only because he tried nasty stuff behind the CPC's back.


This is a serious issue. Nobody serious can tell.me that for so many years the Politburo was a shining beacon of justice and morality while it was these "bad low-level" officials who did all this corruption, yeah no way my dude. I am 100% that there were (are?..) corrupt people in the Politburo.

I would say however that IMO Xi seriously wants to jail these kinds of people but he is held back by the CPC. Remember, the CPC had to strike a deal to charge, Zhou Yongkang from the Politburo....

I think that Xi will try to push for digitized governance more. It will (already has?) start with low-level party members and then slowly go to higher and higher level party members



Agreed

I found that index to be accurate for the Netherlands and Turkey. Both became more corrupt in the last decade. Especially Turkey...
But I think it is not good enough for comparing countries. First of all, their methodology is unclear and seems very subjective.

"Perception Index". Also I'd like to know the methodology, sometimes they classify not having election as political corruption or something like that.

Come on guys. That's another NGO set up and funded by western nations for one purpose and one purpose only. Go have a look at their funding section.

That's the problem for China, and that is the western nations are very adept at this "soft" propaganda stuff. Everytime a fancy name organisation say something, their populace will take it as gospel without ever scrutinised what are their purpose and who funds them. This corruption BS NGO is no better than Armnisty international, world human right watch. Etc.

With regards to corruptions, @plawolf had a good post a few posts back. So I won't bother to repeat much of what he had said. Except to add, rest assured this NGO is going to downplay the western corruptions and gas light any corruptions in China as another China's failings.

Mike Pompeo: “I was the CIA director. We lied, We cheated, We stole”

Just choose your flavor:

The Grayzone

CGTN - Bilingual Chinese-English

RT

TeleSUR English

Call me bias. I would said the CGTN is the best. But for quick impact, the greyzone.

Jeez…

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At the risk of being accused of racism, I would say there is something seriously wrong with a culture that constantly seen raping women is fair game.
 

siegecrossbow

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Come on guys. That's another NGO set up and funded by western nations for one purpose and one purpose only. Go have a look at their funding section.

That's the problem for China, and that is the western nations are very adept at this "soft" propaganda stuff. Everytime a fancy name organisation say something, their populace will take it as gospel without ever scrutinised what are their purpose and who funds them. This corruption BS NGO is no better than Armnisty international, world human right watch. Etc.

With regards to corruptions, @plawolf had a good post a few posts back. So I won't bother to repeat much of what he had said. Except to add, rest assured this NGO is going to downplay the western corruptions and gas light any corruptions in China as another China's failings.



Call me bias. I would said the CGTN is the best. But for quick impact, the greyzone.



At the risk of being accused of racism, I would say there is something seriously wrong with a culture that constantly seen raping women is fair game.

It's not woman, it's a pre-teen girl so it is even more heinous.
 

voyager1

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Haha, Germany is still butthurt that Hungary blocked the EU-statement criticising China for Hong Kong

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Hungary again blocked an EU-Statement on #Hongkong. Three weeks ago it was on Middle East," he wrote on Friday. "We need a serious debate on ways to manage dissent, including qualified majority voting."
"Manage dissent". EU getting more Orwellian by the day.
I told you guys that as years are passed, the West will gradually become more Chinese than China becoming Western lol
 

Gatekeeper

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It's not woman, it's a pre-teen girl so it is even more heinous.

OMG. That teach me to just look at the headline. It's worse then that, she was an 8 year old, and the guy was a soldier. And really its also attempted murder by throwing her off the train. Gee .

But as I said, this types of issues in India is not going to get solved until it confront it's own culture and ethics about their attitude towards women. (Please don't accuse me of racism).
 

BlackWindMnt

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Haha, Germany is still butthurt that Hungary blocked the EU-statement criticising China for Hong Kong

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"Manage dissent". EU getting more Orwellian by the day.
I told you guys that as years are passed, the West will gradually become more Chinese than China becoming Western lol
Too be honest I think China right now is getting a master class in lawfare from the US. Wouldn't be surprised once this is al over China will shut down the great fire wall. I think Chinese software is mature enough that they can lock down their domestic market from western tech companies.

Pompeo already talked about the west pulling up a great fire wall(clean network initiative), wouldn't be surprised that all those "crypto" ransom hackers will be reason why the US needs a clean network Initiative.
 

Gatekeeper

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Haha, Germany is still butthurt that Hungary blocked the EU-statement criticising China for Hong Kong

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"Manage dissent". EU getting more Orwellian by the day.
I told you guys that as years are passed, the West will gradually become more Chinese than China becoming Western lol

It's not straight cut as that. Look at these Muppets in Budapest. It had the smell of U.S. NED all over it.

Budapest roads renamed in protest against Chinese university​

2 June 2021

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Today is the 4th of June. Be sure the western MSM would be all over this like a nasty little rash.

I posted this over at Hong Kong thread, but I think it's ok to repost here.

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voyager1

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It's not straight cut as that. Look at these Muppets in Budapest. It had the smell of U.S. NED all over it.

Budapest roads renamed in protest against Chinese university​

2 June 2021

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Yeah thats Orban's domestic opposition funded by the US. don't worry about it, as long as Orban is in power, Hungary will be buddies with China

So, Xi, more Chinese investments to Hungary please.

Win-Win cooperation. Hungary get economic growth and China gets Hungary blocking EU actions against it
 
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China needs a voice that matches its national strength, international status: Xi

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China has finally understood that soft power is important

Xi's full speech

Beijing, June 1, via Xinhua — The Political Bureau of the Communist Party of China Central Committee (CPC) held its 30th collective study on the afternoon of May 31 on strengthening China’s international communication capacity.

While presiding over the study, Xi Jinping, General Secretary of the CPC Central Committee, stressed that telling a good China story, spreading a good Chinese voice, and showing a real, three-dimensional, and comprehensive China are important tasks in strengthening China’s international communication capacity. We should deeply understand the importance and necessity of strengthening and improving international communication under the new situation, make great efforts to strengthen international communication capacity, form an international discourse that matches our comprehensive national power and international status, create a favourable external public opinion environment for China’s reform, development and stability, and make positive contributions in driving the building of a community of human destiny.

Professor Zhang Weiwei from Fudan University gave a lecture on this issue and made work suggestions. Comrades from Politburo listened carefully to his lecture and then held discussions.

Xi Jinping delivered a speech while presiding over the study session. He pointed out that our Party has always attached great importance to external communication. Since the 18th Party Congress, we have vigorously promoted international communication to guard the truth and strive for innovation, rationalised the system of internal and external propaganda; built a media cluster with international influence; actively promoted Chinese culture to go out into the world, effectively carried out international public opinion guidance and public opinion struggle; and constructed rudimentary a multi-body, three-dimensional pattern of foreign propaganda.

As a result, China’s international discourse and influence have significantly increased, while also faced with new situations and tasks. It is necessary to strengthen the top-level design and research layout, build a strategic communication system with distinctive Chinese characteristics, and focus on improving the influence of international communication, the appeal of Chinese culture, the affability of China’s image, the persuasive power of Chinese discourse, and the guiding power of our international public opinion efforts.

Xi Jinping pointed out that it is necessary to accelerate the construction of Chinese discourse and Chinese narrative system; to explain Chinese practice with Chinese theory; to perfect Chinese theory with Chinese practice; to create new concepts, new categories and new expressions that work both in Chinese and foreign contexts; and to present the Chinese story and the ideological and spiritual power behind it more fully and distinctly.

It is important to strengthen the propaganda and interpretation of the CPC, and to help foreign peoples realise that the CPC is truly fighting for the happiness of the Chinese people, and understand why the CPC is capable [of success], why Marxism works, and why socialism with Chinese characteristics is good.

We should conduct in-depth research on the Chinese spirit, Chinese values and Chinese power from various perspectives, including political, economic, cultural, social and ecological civilization, to provide theoretical support for international communication work. It is important to promote Chinese culture to the world, to convey our message with culture, to spread our voice with culture, to educate people with culture, and to explain and promote to the world more excellent culture with Chinese characteristics that embody the Chinese spirit and contain Chinese wisdom.

We should pay attention to control the tone, be open and confident as well as modest and humble, and strive to build a credible, lovable and respectable image of China.

Xi Jinping stressed that China’s ideas, wisdom and solutions should be widely publicised. As China moves closer to the centre of the world stage, it has the ability and responsibility to play a greater role in global affairs and, together with other countries, make greater contributions to solving the problems of all mankind. We should hold high the banner of the community of human destiny, rely on the vivid practice of China’s development, base on more than 5,000 years of Chinese civilization, and comprehensively elaborate our concept of development, civilization, security, human rights, ecology, international order and global governance.

We should advocate multilateralism, oppose unilateralism and hegemonism, guide the international community to jointly shape a new international order that is more just and reasonable, and build a new type of international relations. We should make good use of various vivid and touching examples to illustrate that China’s development itself is the greatest contribution to the world and contributes wisdom to solving human problems.

Xi pointed out that various forms of people-to-people and cultural exchanges should be carried out in-depth, and these exchanges and contacts between China and other countries should be promoted through various channels. We should innovate institutional mechanisms and turn our institutional, organisational and human strengths into communication advantages. We should give better play to the role of high-level experts and make use of platforms and channels such as important international conferences and forums and foreign mainstream media to make our voices heard. All regions and departments should work with their own characteristics and advantages to display a colourful, vivid and three-dimensional image of China.

Xi stressed the need to comprehensively enhance the effectiveness of international communication and build a strong team of specialists to meet the needs of international communication in the new era. It is necessary to strengthen theoretical research on international communication, master the laws of international communication, build a foreign discourse system and improve the art of communication.

We must adopt precise communication methods that are tailored to audiences in different regions, countries and groups, promote China’s story and its voice through representations in globalised, regionalised, and more narrowly-focused contexts, and enhance the affability and effectiveness of China’s international communication efforts.

We must make friends, unite and win over the majority, and constantly expand the circle of international public opinion friends who know China and who are friendly with China. It is important to be strategic and skillful in the struggle for public opinion, and to enhance the ability to speak out on major issues.

Xi Jinping stressed that party committees (party groups) at all levels should incorporate the strengthening of international communication capacity into the responsibility system of party committees (party groups) for ideological work, strengthen organisational leadership, increase financial investment, and help promote practical work and solve specific difficulties. Leading cadres at all levels should take the initiative to do international communication work, and the main comrades in charge [of party organisations] should both take personal responsibility and do it themselves. It is important to strengthen training for leading cadres in international communication knowledge and to bring into play the role of party organisations at all levels to create a good atmosphere of consciously safeguarding the dignified image of the Party and the state. Party schools (state administrative colleges) at all levels should give importance to the training of international communication skills. We should strengthen the construction of university disciplines and the training of reserve talent pools, and raise the level of international communication theory research.

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Mr T

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We proudly celebrate the 32nd anniversary of successfully defeating the Western Color Revolution.
The Tiananmen Square protesters were not seeking a revolution. They were challenging corruption within the Party, calling for less censorship, better eduction funding and supported Hu Yaobang's legacy. But they weren't seeking to overthrow the Party. What they were seeking would have led to more transparency and made it harder for corrupt officials to hide their money via families, perhaps also more intra-Party democracy. But there would have been no reason for the CCP to be disbanded.

The protesters probably would have left Tiananmen Square voluntarily if the People's Daily editorial had been rescinded. But given hardliners like Li Peng refused to remove that blot on the protesters' records, it's not surprising if by the end of May 1989 there were more people openly challenging the CCP itself.

Anyway, if you think you're right in your interpretation of the protests, all the more reason for the CCP to allow open discussion of the subject in China.
 

Gatekeeper

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Did someone here say the Tiananmen protest is not seeking a revolution to over throw the government? Gee

I think we better watch this video before it gets taken down.

The words of a revolutionary straight from the horses mouth:

"we were hoping for a bloodshed!"....... providing is other people's blood, as "I won't be staying . I'll be leaving, I want to live!" Such revolutionary zeal! Lol

 
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