Ladakh Flash Point

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Xizor

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Good so we do agree on something. Forgive tje typo, it was late when I replied to you last night.

Every available map of the la c shows the laC running through kongka la. There is also a clearly visible road extending from Hot Springs towards the Kongka La bulge
Even Lt. Gen. HS Panag has himself said that the LAC runs through Kpngka La and that there are no differing perceptions.

I am only mentioning those points because you insist on saying there is a problem there when no reputable gov. or media source has confirmed that. I am simply asking for sources corroborating Shukla's claims.
Yada...Yada...

Make a map of the Patrol points you think are right. You claim you know it's between Konka La and at the same time claim don't know its exact locations.

You can never talk about Patrol Points I'd not for Shukla. You yourself said no other source mentions it. I don't think you see the apparent flaw here.
 

twineedle

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Yada...Yada...

Make a map of the Patrol points you think are right. You claim you know it's between Konka La and at the same time claim don't know its exact locations.

You can never talk about Patrol Points I'd not for Shukla. You yourself said no other source mentions it. I don't think you see the apparent flaw here.
The fact is no reliable media or government source has corroborates Shukla, and sayellite imagery provided by multiple analysts have shown no current PLA presence anywhere within Indian perception, with the exception of CK( area of differing perceptions). Glad you acknowledge that. It is also a fact that China tried to shift the LAC westwards at multiple sectors including Galwan and Hot Springs but failed, as confirmed by satellite imagery. And now you are even implying that Lt. Gen. HS Panag is wrong about the location of the LAC.
 
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Xizor

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The fact is no reliable media or government source has corroborates Shukla, and sayellite imagery provided by multiple analysts have shown no current PLA presence anywhere within Indian perception, with the exception of CK( area of differing perceptions). Glad you acknowledge that.

And now you are even implying that Lt. Gen. HS Panag is wrong about the location of the LAC.

Yes, I do acknowledge China is within the Indian LAC such that it has become difficult for Indian government to accept it. Them not admitting about the change in LAC is expected.
 

twineedle

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Yes, I do acknowledge China is within the Indian LAC such that it has become difficult for Indian government to accept it. Them not admitting about the change in LAC is expected.
You sure are good at making claims without evidence. Thought you were better than that.

How do you explain the fact that reliable media outlets haven't reported on those points which are supposedly a problem like they have reported on PPs 15-17a?

Then of course, there is the inconvenient fact that satellite imagery does not show any PLA presence in the Kongka La sector. If you have actual evidence saying otherwise please post it.
 
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Xizor

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You sure are good at making claims without evidence. Thought you were better than that.

How do you explain the fact that reliable media outlets haven't reported on those points which are supposedly a problem like they have reported on PPs 15-17A?
Evidence?

Here you go -

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Don't worry about my evidences and methods. Worry about that map you hesitate to make pointing out the alternate locations of patrol points PP19 to PP23.

You can't adopt patrol points from one source and insist that it is different with no alternative to give for.
 
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twineedle

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You have him confused with Indian media. Unlike you, at least he doesn't post 2 random (sometimes identical) Google Map links, label them as evidence, and hope no one opens them.
The points I have posted are based on my own research.
Evidence?

Here you go -

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Don't worry about my evidences and methods. Worry about that map you hesitate to make pointing out the patrol points PP19 to PP23.

You can't adopt patrol points from one source and insist that it is different with no alternative to give for.
According to your interpretation of the map, the points are east of Lt. Gen. Panag's interpretation of the LAC, in an area where he says there are no dofferring perceptions. Are you saying he is wrong now?

And Shukla doesn't create patrol points. The China Study group does. He is simply putting random points he thinks are the patrol points.'

And no, a vague drawing that doesn't even include major landmarks like the Changlung isn't evidence. You have so far failed to present any CLEAR, RELIABLE evidence such as satelllite imagery. This is where the LAC has been since 1962, which is corroborated by Lt. Gen. Panag's own accounts, and that is where the LAC exists today.
 

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manqiangrexue

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The points I have posted are based on my own research.
Posting 2 random (sometimes identical) Google Map links or claims made by random bloggers that you for no reason wish us to believe are Chinese is your level of "research"? LOL That might be all you're capable of but don't insult the term. That might qualify as research for Indian media but not here.
 
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