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Mt1701d

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hashtagpls said:
The problem with offering Indians aid, vaccines, medical equipment etc as a gesture of mercy and humanity is that the gesture is wasted.
You are effectively casting your pearls to swine.
The Indians aren't going to appreciate it, and in fact as we have seen in twitter et al comments, that they are going to spit on the gesture as it hurts their pride and ego. They can accept their inferiority and need for help from the white man but from Chinese? Makes an Indian feel even more inferior.
Worse case, is that will shamelessly take the medical equipment and sell it on the black market for profit for themselves.

Finally, i believe the indians who shamelessly wanted to hurt and invade China ie the indian diaspora living comfortably in the west, need to be humbled and nothing would humble them more than to see india's stature revert back to the third world shithole from whence it came, to see their own standing in the west be reduced to that of refugee.
I call it Karma.

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Look at this clusterfuck

Yet despite the evident failure in leadership, logistics and planning, the indian will blame China and persist in making war on China.
fuck em.
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You have a point, but the main point I think isn’t with what the Indian / Hindu nationalists or overseas or keyboard warrior Indians think about the aid being offered... I think you miss the point on the flip side... which is, the aid is to present to centralists or people who are still on the fence or those who at the very least can still be open minded that China is not petty about these situations... or at least present a position where, while China might have some political motivations behind these actions, they are still capable of at least being human unlike what the Indians or the west try to present...

Also it just makes the Indian position worst regardless of their choice, I mean if they don’t accept then despite their people dying by the thousands they are still unwilling or unable to accept their own situation, while they and the west can try to spin as hard as they can, it will still leave a shadow of doubt on both their own people who are not brain dead and others who still have eyes to see... and whether they accept or not it basically prove to the players in the SA and SEA regions that India is unreliable in a crisis... they can’t even save themselves and if they don’t accept then while in this position they are still too prideful to accept help from anyone willing to offer... how can anyone else expect them to be reliable to help when in a critical situation. Just pointing this out and making it perfectly clear, alone is worth spending millions or even billions in aid... and despite what the Indian keyboard warriors think... their comments only help to prove to the world that Indians can’t understand or see the bigger picture even when it is literally slapping them in the face...
 
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hashtagpls

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Gatekeeper said:
If the richest Indians, comprising 5% or 65 million, couldn’t care about their fellow Indians by fleeing the country, why should the world care?
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Agreed;
All that's left is virtue signalling which the indian mouthpieces are keen to deny China any social benefits/brownie points just as the white anglos did even as they bought up Chinese medical supplies on the airport tarmacs.

Mt1701d said:
You have a point, but the main point I think isn’t with what the Indian / Hindu nationalists or overseas or keyboard warrior Indians think about the aid being offered... I think you miss the point on the flip side... which is, the aid is to present to centralists or people who are still on the fence or those who at the very least can still be open minded that China is not petty about these situations... or at least present a position where, while China might have some political motivations behind these actions, they are still capable of at least being human unlike what the Indians or the west try to present...
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What use is Chinese aid when the Indians refuse to report on Chinese help and rather, persist in the Ladakh myth so as to toe the government's line on China?
Look at HuXujin's tweet calling out the indian press on omitting Chinese aid to India which is substantial compared to the anglos who would have otherwise ignored India if China hadn't shamed them into acting.

May as well spend the money on worthwhile recipients in south Asia, like Nepal, Pakistan, Bangladesh and Sri Lanka.
Mt1701d said:
Also it just makes the Indian position worst regardless of their choice, I mean if they don’t accept then despite their people dying by the thousands they are still unwilling or unable to accept their own situation, while they and the west can try to spin as hard as they can, it will still leave a shadow of doubt on both their own people who are not brain dead and others who still have eyes to see... and whether they accept or not it basically prove to the players in the SA and SEA regions that India is unreliable in a crisis... they can’t even save themselves and if they don’t accept then while in this position they are still too prideful to accept help from anyone willing to offer... how can anyone else expect them to be reliable to help when in a critical situation. Just pointing this out and making it perfectly clear, alone is worth spending millions or even billions in aid... and despite what the Indian keyboard warriors think... their comments only help to prove to the world that Indians can’t understand or see the bigger picture even when it is literally slapping them in the face...
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You give these people too much credit, and i can't say i blame you.
Prior to 2020, i had high hopes that americans and australians would not stoop so low as to make fun of Chinese dying from covid, nor to indulge in bioweapons conspiracy theories on a state level, nor to pursue race war as a foreign policy.
I have yet to see the Indians behave otherwise, and considering their conduct throughout 2020 to present, i have no confidence that they would even exercise the mental capacity, let alone the self awareness to think that maybe they've been fed bullshit all this time.
 
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Mt1701d

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hashtagpls said:
What use is Chinese aid when the Indians refuse to report on Chinese help and rather, persist in the Ladakh myth so as to toe the government's line on China?
Look at HuXujin's tweet calling out the indian press on omitting Chinese aid to India which is substantial compared to the anglos who would have otherwise ignored India if China hadn't shamed them into acting.

May as well spend the money on worthwhile recipients in south Asia, like Nepal, Pakistan, Bangladesh and Sri Lanka.
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I get what you mean but facts are facts at the end of the day... even if the Indian don’t report it, aid is still being sent... the point is, it just shows how petty Indians are and when these types of information become available it would make their spin look even worst and offering aid to other SA countries should be done either way...
hashtagpls said:
You give these people too much credit, and i can't say i blame you.
Prior to 2020, i had high hopes that americans and australians would not stoop so low as to make fun of Chinese dying from covid, nor to indulge in bioweapons conspiracy theories on a state level, nor to pursue race war as a foreign policy.
I have yet to see the Indians behave otherwise, and considering their conduct throughout 2020 to present, i have no confidence that they would even exercise the mental capacity, let alone the self awareness to think that maybe they've been fed bullshit all this time.
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Well I don’t really have that much hope either but to counter BS will take a long time... and I think that if this can change some minds or at least make them question and have some doubt, it is already a win... as for the BS people say on the internet or people laughing at people dying... you get those everywhere and they are frankly not the important ones, those who can still think and have an open mind are the important ones no matter how few they are...
 
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hashtagpls said:
Agreed;
All that's left is virtue signalling which the indian mouthpieces are keen to deny China any social benefits/brownie points just as the white anglos did even as they bought up Chinese medical supplies on the airport tarmacs.


What use is Chinese aid when the Indians refuse to report on Chinese help and rather, persist in the Ladakh myth so as to toe the government's line on China?
Look at HuXujin's tweet calling out the indian press on omitting Chinese aid to India which is substantial compared to the anglos who would have otherwise ignored India if China hadn't shamed them into acting.

May as well spend the money on worthwhile recipients in south Asia, like Nepal, Pakistan, Bangladesh and Sri Lanka.

You give these people too much credit, and i can't say i blame you.
Prior to 2020, i had high hopes that americans and australians would not stoop so low as to make fun of Chinese dying from covid, nor to indulge in bioweapons conspiracy theories on a state level, nor to pursue race war as a foreign policy.
I have yet to see the Indians behave otherwise, and considering their conduct throughout 2020 to present, i have no confidence that they would even exercise the mental capacity, let alone the self awareness to think that maybe they've been fed bullshit all this time.
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Chinese aid is not meant to win over the Indians, at least that's very low on the priority list. I can think of many other good reasons for selling medical equipment to India:
  1. There's money to be made, who doesn't like money
  2. It's great international advertisement to the vast manufacturing capability of China - if any of you don't like this you are free to pick up the urgent order for several tens of thousands of oxygen concentrator at any time, if you can't... well then
  3. It shows the world that should China become the new world hegemon, the new world would be a better place because even when a supposed "enemy" state is in trouble China would help them out. As opposed to US which considers India to be a critical ally in their Indo-Pacific strategy and yet isn't doing anything
Number 3 seems to be working well since Indonesia has just asked China's help with the submarine, didn't even bother to ask the US.
 
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getready said:
Didn’t realize WHO just a day to approve moderne. Definitely something suspicious here. Politics in play
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It's always been the case. I think that the WHO are actually doing rigorous testing of the Chinese created vaccines as to maybe ensure it wouldn't face any potential backlash from the usual monkeys in the west and vassal countries. As compared to the so called "emergency" granting of western made vaccines because the fallout for the WHO is frankly quite minimal or non existent. Most if not all of the western vaccines are literally immune from prosecution or litigations if and when and God forbid one of their vaccines are found to be defective. The WHO is after all a western led created organization, funded mostly and largely from western led countries; staffed by western countries so it's not a surprise that even the scientists in that agency must learn how to navigate the current political climate to remain somewhat relevant in the eyes of their western audience that must be cuddled with the lie that they are still the best in the world.
 
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