Coronavirus 2019-2020 thread (no unsubstantiated rumours!)

Xizor

Captain
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The fact that China is developing mRNA vaccine. Only US and Germany has mRNA vaccine technology, which is super advanced stuff. Seriously , Chinese are so damn smart man. And this shit you can't even copy, this DNA stuff is like jet engine and EUV level and nuclear bomb type shit.
I hope you aren't Chinese yourself heh


China sure deserves credit for the mRNA vaccine research.

But other countries aren't bad -
Skimming Wikipedia and websites (I know it's not a good source but it is good enough for a rough look)

Germany 2 (2 mRNA)
France 1
US 3 (1 mRNA) + others in development
China 7 (2 mRNA) + 2 (Taiwan)
Russia 3
India 2
Cuba 1 (!!)
South Korea 2
UK 1
Belgium 1
Japan 0 (!!)
Israel 0 (1 developed but issues)
Australia 0 (1 developed but issues)
Turkey 1
Vietnam 1
 
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SteelBird

Colonel
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Cambodia also has a very bad outbreak in SEA. Cambodia enjoyed near covid-19 free since early 2020 and encounter 3 waves of outbreaks. It survived the first two and still struggles with the third one.

In early 2021, during our weekly meeting, I told my staff that when the two larger neighbors of Cambodia, Vietnam and Thailand, had an outbreak, especially with new variants, there is no reason Cambodia can avoid it. An outbreak is just a matter of time and this time our luck has run out. (PS: Vietnam handles the pandemic very well that it has no urgent need for vaccination. The only vaccine available in Vietnam now is a small batch of AZ imported from Europe. Russia offered to donate its Spunik V but I have no idea if the vaccine even arrives.)

600K of Sinopharm vaccines arrived to Cambodia as early as Feb 10, 2021. By that time, no one care about taking the shot or even skeptical about the safety of the vaccine. The India's AZ arrived with 324K later on. Our Prime Minister took the AZ on a live TV because Sinopharm is for age group of 18 to 59 while AZ can be used for old people.

I talked to my friend that take or not to take the vaccine depends on two evaluations of ourselves; the risks of taking vaccines and the risks of being infected by covid-19. By the time of talking, risks of taking vaccines seems higher that I decided not to take the shot at that time. However, there came the Feb-20 community infection event that daily infections grow dramatically and sometime came out from nowhere. Many migrant workers who feared infection of covid-19 in Thailand fled back to Cambodia, some hid themselves from quarantine and brought the virus to the community. We knew it was serious and this time our luck has run out. We arranged our staff to take the vaccines on volunteer basis. Later when situation worsened, there's no more volunteer principle. I pressured my staff to take the vaccine or may faced suspension from work. We were not among the priority groups to take the vaccines, however, we used our relationship to get our people vaccinated. Most of them have taken the 1st shot and some has also taken the 2nd one.

The current situation is: we are under lockdown and the lockdown has extended another 7 days from Apr 29 to May 5. Curfew still enforced. Our business partially resumes with only 2 persons allowed to come to office.
 

siegecrossbow

General
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What do you mean? Clearly the virus escaped from the Wuhan biolab. Xi also sweet-talked and decieve the innocent Trump about the severity of the virus.

Then Wuhan was clearly hiding numbers, 30 million SIM numbers disappeared which means that 20-30 million people died and the CPC covered it up. Then the CPC locked eveyone home, and bolted their homes.

Then 40 million SIM numbers reappeared after the pandemic was over. Why does China worry about population decline when they can necro people so easily?
 

KYli

Brigadier
Cambodia also has a very bad outbreak in SEA. Cambodia enjoyed near covid-19 free since early 2020 and encounter 3 waves of outbreaks. It survived the first two and still struggles with the third one.

In early 2021, during our weekly meeting, I told my staff that when the two larger neighbors of Cambodia, Vietnam and Thailand, had an outbreak, especially with new variants, there is no reason Cambodia can avoid it. An outbreak is just a matter of time and this time our luck has run out. (PS: Vietnam handles the pandemic very well that it has no urgent need for vaccination. The only vaccine available in Vietnam now is a small batch of AZ imported from Europe. Russia offered to donate its Spunik V but I have no idea if the vaccine even arrives.)

600K of Sinopharm vaccines arrived to Cambodia as early as Feb 10, 2021. By that time, no one care about taking the shot or even skeptical about the safety of the vaccine. The India's AZ arrived with 324K later on. Our Prime Minister took the AZ on a live TV because Sinopharm is for age group of 18 to 59 while AZ can be used for old people.

I talked to my friend that take or not to take the vaccine depends on two evaluations of ourselves; the risks of taking vaccines and the risks of being infected by covid-19. By the time of talking, risks of taking vaccines seems higher that I decided not to take the shot at that time. However, there came the Feb-20 community infection event that daily infections grow dramatically and sometime came out from nowhere. Many migrant workers who feared infection of covid-19 in Thailand fled back to Cambodia, some hid themselves from quarantine and brought the virus to the community. We knew it was serious and this time our luck has run out. We arranged our staff to take the vaccines on volunteer basis. Later when situation worsened, there's no more volunteer principle. I pressured my staff to take the vaccine or may faced suspension from work. We were not among the priority groups to take the vaccines, however, we used our relationship to get our people vaccinated. Most of them have taken the 1st shot and some has also taken the 2nd one.

The current situation is: we are under lockdown and the lockdown has extended another 7 days from Apr 29 to May 5. Curfew still enforced. Our business partially resumes with only 2 persons allowed to come to office.
I have noticed Cambodia cases keep going up from a few dozens to a few hundreds daily. Same thing with Thailand as it welcomed tourists and things got out of control which is a big mistake. At the moment if things got worse in Myanmar due to India, most SEA countries and China Yunnan province would face a new threat on the horizon. I think every SEA countries need to speed up the vaccination now.

I think complacency is detrimental to containment of covid virus. Many countries such as Japan and South Korea didn't really feel the urgency to vaccinate their population but now they are facing a resurgence of cases that becoming increasingly difficult to contain.

Same thing with Vietnam, its luck might run out no matter how careful and restrict its polices are. It just doesn't take much for the covid virus to spread especially when many people can cross borders illegally.

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Tam

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Registered Member
Like, most of these concentrators, ventilators and masks are made in Chyna! Look at Germany, sending 80 million KN95 masks. Where are the KN95 masks made?

This is like a party throwing their glass of water at a raging forest fire.

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And the government is encouraging its own citizens to walk into the raging forest fire. There is no foreign aid for stupidity.

 

SteelBird

Colonel
In the middle of a surge, not sure it is such a good idea.
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It is surely not a good idea if not a bad idea. When I took my second shot, I asked the medical worker 2 questions which I actually already have my own answer.
1. After the second shot, how long does it take to be fully protective?
2. After fully vaccinated, how long can it last and after that, does it need a third shot?

For the first question, he answered me 28 days. For second question he said he's not very sure but he guess it would be six months, for the third shot, we will need to wait for regulator to take decision.
 
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