Coronavirus 2019-2020 thread (no unsubstantiated rumours!)

KYli

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A vero-cell vaccine in Nepal could be either:

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Both the Chinese and Indian vaccines use the same technology, and have roughly comparable efficacy.
Brazil refused to grant emergency approval towards Indian inactivated vaccine due to a lot of irregularities. So no, they are not comparable.

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SteelBird

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A fast question, these days India has spikes of daily cases as high as 200K+ while Brazil has 60K+ but the fatality of India is only 1000+ per day compared to Brazil's 2000+. Anything wrong here?
 

Kaeshmiri

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A fast question, these days India has spikes of daily cases as high as 200K+ while Brazil has 60K+ but the fatality of India is only 1000+ per day compared to Brazil's 2000+. Anything wrong here?
Figures are fudged in India. Govt is massively underreporting it for political reasons (there are major elections going on in crucial states right now so Modi doesnt want negative PR). The real figures are 3-4x the reported ones.

People are dying like dogs, crematoriums are melting, massive shortage of oxygen cylinders, essential drugs being hoarded ,
beds not available in various cities, even the national capital Delhi is facing shortage .COVID testing being refused by private clinics citing Govt orders. Delhi has a positivity rate of 25% (and its on the rise) which is mind boggling. Health Infrastructure has collapsed in various cities. All in all its a frickin mess.

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Tam

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Dead strands produced by your body, based on your DNA, with millions of years evolution to prevent errors, not some foreign mRNA produced in a factory process with unknown QA capability

You do often get foreign DNA into your body from germs and viruses, and not to mention from the food you eat.

Does viruses alter your DNA?

What messenger RNA does is to tell a cell to manufacture a spike protein like the coronavirus' and the body reacts to this spike protein as foreign.

Your body makes mRNA all the time. That's how your DNA sends messages to all parts of your cells all the time. These messages have a very short life, once used, they disintegrate harmlessly in the body. How does your body say these fragments are foreign or not? On a molecular level these are bits of sugar with peptides.
 

supercat

Colonel
COVID-19 vaccine production and export as of 4/15/2012:
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taxiya

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My parents got vaccined with VeroCell vaccine in Nepal. I haven’t heard about this name. Can someome explain how effective and safe it is ?
Are you sure that the product name is "Vero Cell", not name of the type? None of China made vaccine has that as their commercial product name. Besides, "Vero Cell" is a cull culture, a generic method for creating vaccines. Here is what "Vero Cell" is
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Basically, any inactivated vaccine can be called "vero cell" if it use this method. Does Nepal also received Indian made inactivated vaccine such as BBV152 which is the same kind of vaccines from SinoVac or SinoPharm.
 

taxiya

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China is seriously lagging vs the US relatively to size. Very bad job on scaling up production
That is a over-simplistic statement and strange conclusion. China was never a big drug maker in normal time, and its export of drug in the world is ignorable. Then over the sudden it is doing a "bad" job in the field that it was never specialized? You can check who is the top drug producers and compare their current vaccine production and export figure than compare them to China, then tell who is doing a bad job compared to how good they should have been. FYI, US was always a top drug maker, in the same way as China being the world factory in other sectors. They are all doing what they are good at.

"relative to size" is another name of "per capital" which is pointless in many ways. If you only acknowledge "per capital" as a benchmark, how about China has equal number of SSN, CVN, ICBM, CO2 emission, Car ownership per capital as the USA? Or that is just crazy by all means?
 
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