Yeah, but it won't matter for people who already have one foot in the grave, or the elderly.
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Butantan said that if the second dose is delayed by more than two weeks, the efficacy rises to 62.3%. The vaccine has an efficacy of between 83.7% and 100% at preventing those infected from requiring medical assistance, it said.
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This is second covid wave for Chile, likely thanks to P1 from neighboring Brazil. This can be another indication of effectiveness against P1.
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Hmmmm,Serum Institue is the one producing the Astra Zenecavaccine which the the U.S. has agreed to pay under $4 a dose.
I know I'm comparing apples with oranges, but I believe mRNA vaccines are faster to produce than the regular ones but in India one plant can turn out 80million does a month....?
According to this article Pfizer is at the time of writing{mid FEB} can only produce up to 3 million does every 110 days
I blame Gao Fu for being a moron. Even though his words have been taken out of context and misrepresented by the Western media. But as China CDC head, Gao Fu should know better for saying what he has said.
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Meh, if it's not this, there's always going to be something else. As we've seen with Xinjiang, Western media will even make things up if they can't find anything to twist.
The big issues (to me at least) are the following:
1. It's obvious that the sole purpose of many of these articles is to misinform and misdirect. As I mentioned before, articles with respect to the J&J vaccine are far more conciliatory in tone, they try to explain that WHO guidelines only need above 50% efficacy to stop infections from growing, or that efficacy is not measured uniformly from study to study, and finally it was still effective in preventing hospitalization like 90% of the time. So back to the Chinese vaccines, they all comfortably meet these guidelines, but instead we see articles that trash them, why? In a time where we are always complaining about "fake news", outlets should be more responsible with their reporting. (I know, wishful thinking)
2. It's great that the mRNA vaccines are so effective, but it's totally meaningless when the US put in a complete export ban. Is this mentioned at all? If there is no Chinese vaccines for many of these countries, then there is no vaccine at all. The reduction of hospitalizations is still a huge impetus for these countries where doctors/well-trained nurses are not plentiful. The lower efficacy only means a higher threshold is needed for herd immunity.
3. Finally, mRNA was a totally untested/unproven technology and still might have unknown long term effects. It's great that it seems to be a home run so far, but at the same time we have to recognize that within the western world, it was a high risk-high reward scenario. If you ever watched Star Wars, there is the famous line "Many Bothans died for this information", in this case, "Many Americans died for this success". Because China was and continues to be pretty successful in containing outbreaks, they chose a very conservative approach to the development and even now deployment.
These articles will only encourage people to pat themselves on the back and "proving" the superiority of western methods and ideology. Furthermore, it just reinforces the Evil Chinese/Yellow peril image that is responsible for the violence going on right now (China exporting useless vaccines, tricking people)
Deagal predicting US popullation falls to 100 million by 2025.... maybe thats how it happens
I think it actually makes China look better and more transparent. The fact that China's vaccines have lower effectiveness is already no secret. 50-57% efficacy for Sinovac, it has been published by Brazil and Chile and it is going to come out no matter what. There is no point in trying to hide it. People already know the mRNA vaccines are better. But the fact that the government is not afraid to make this admission will help its image. People respect honesty. Sometimes I think people misunderstand what will win you genuine respect in the world. Admissions such as this will do more to help China's image subconsciously than most wolf warrior style diplomacy.