Discussing Biden's Potential China Policy

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emblem21

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This is getting hilarious. what were they expecting when they slapped sanctions on Chinese cotton? Arrogant hypocrites

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I swear that Biden and his idiot government is a massive liability to these companies and there bottom line. I wonder how long it will be until these corporations decide to cut Biden short because they way it is going, these big brands are going to great increase the unemployment numbers in the USA and in Europe because they can’t stop going ‘muh human rights’ really he might just encourage more Chinese people to simply create better brands and just let these idiot brands go out of business since most people nowadays in the eu and the USA don’t have the money to buy top brands (because of COVID and job loss) and now they attack the people who are quite literally keeping there businesses afloat if they only shut the hell up. Hence let’s hope these companies do go under like J C penny and show that continuing the US human rights angle is going to kill in more ways then one.
Also, I wonder how Europe is enjoying how the whole boat crisis in the suez Canal with there goods not coming in, really anyone that tries to join up with the USA is going to experience a hell of a lot of pain since lots of jobs are lost in Europe now, I honestly wonder how many are going to be lost now.
 
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With the 25 year pact signed between China and Iran, i foresee the US being trapped deeper into the quagmire of the graveyard of empires; bodybags will soon become America's greatest import as the anglos double down on trying to hold back China's inevitable rise.
Good observation. If US remains in Afgjanistan after all, the China will probably give the green light for Iran to start doing its thing sinking the US year by year on a financial and strategic black hole.

No need for China to get involved personally. Better to leave the job to Iran so that Iran gets rewarded with increased influence in Afghanistan.

The only potential concern for China is how to handle the rest of the Middle East countries. Here will see the caliber of China's diplomatic corps and if they can manage to reach a deal or a compromise with them
 

Mr T

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So when can we expect Biden to roll-back those trade restrictions with China, and also end those high-level meetings with Taiwan - anytime soon? After all, I was assured it would be the first thing on his agenda as soon as he'd been in office long enough people wouldn't think he was rushing into a policy change.

I swear that Biden and his idiot government is a massive liability to these companies and there bottom line. I wonder how long it will be until these corporations decide to cut Biden short because they way it is going, these big brands are going to great increase the unemployment numbers in the USA and in Europe
What does "cut Biden short" mean? They have no influence on his policies, except maybe issues like domestic minimum wages. I know there's this idea that US business controls the White House, but that's not actually how it works. If it was then these sanctions would have never emerged.

I also see no reason why the companies would increase unemployment, presumably by cutting staff numbers. If they did that they'd make it harder to sell their own items to their home markets. If Chinese consumers start boycotting their products, it will lead to staff layoffs in China first and probably in the Chinese factories that make the goods.
he might just encourage more Chinese people to simply create better brands
"Better brands"?

I mean, Chinese companies have tried to do that in some ways, often by ripping off foreign brands by tweaking logos or the names. Doesn't always work though.

Why people go for certain brands isn't always because "they're better". It's often about image. Is a Gucci handbag really better than one made by another company for half the price, albeit with a different design? Not necessarily. But other people would say it's better - because it's Gucci.

This isn't even a Chinese thing, countries all around the world have bought into the idea of luxury or premium goods from a select group of companies. If it was easy to just make a "better brand" these companies would not be as big as they are now.

I used to hear plenty of talk that Chinese people would ditch Japanese cars permanently over a decade ago due to Sino-Japanese tensions. Despite the protests and cars being smashed up, Japanese cars remain fairly popular there.

since most people nowadays in the eu and the USA don’t have the money to buy top brands (because of COVID and job loss)
I think you're over-estimating the effect of the pandemic on global wages. The people who regularly bought luxuries and premium items have mostly held on to their jobs. Some may have foregone the latest upgrade of whatever, but the idea that large numbers of important companies are being kept afloat just by Chinese demand is questionable. Profits might be boosted by sales in China, but less profits does not mean falling into the red.
Also, I wonder how Europe is enjoying how the whole boat crisis in the suez Canal with there goods not coming in
I mean it's a week's delay with ships going around the Cape - not exactly the end of the world.
 

voyager1

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Meh, SCMP opinion writers are getting worse by the day. This guy still thinks that the US can separate trade/economics with trying to colour revolution and trip China to protect its interests..


And China, trapped in a mindset born of a “century of humiliation”, compounded the problem with its assertive and defensive response. In full view of the media, the
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was laced with charges and counter charges, with no discernible path for de-escalation
Oh look, another slave.
If only China bowed down to the US everything would be fine...lol
 
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bettydice

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ASICS China issued a statement on the issue. There are many negative reponses on Yahoo! JAPAN news though.

「中国に対する一切の中傷とデマに反対する」アシックス中国法人、新疆ウイグル自治区めぐる問題で声明
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"We oppose any slander and hoax against China" ASICS China corporation, statement on issues over Xinjiang Uygur Autonomous Region

In China, there has been a call for a boycott of foreign companies saying they would not buy cotton from the autonomous region, and ASICS said, "I oppose any slander or hoax against China." The statement was issued with the consent of the head office in Japan.

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In China, criticism has been focused on H&M, a Swedish clothing giant that had declared in September 2020 that it would not use cotton from the Xinjiang Uygur Autonomous Region, since March 24th. The U.S. Nike which expressed concern about the report on forced labor and said that it did not use cotton from the autonomous region, is also being a target of criticism.

On the 22nd, before the uproar, the EU imposed sanctions for serious human rights abuses against the Uighurs in line with the U.S., the U.K., and Canada, and experts are analyzing, "Isn't it retaliation by China?"

This criticism also extends to UNIQLO and others who have made similar statements in the past.

Under these circumstances, ASICS' Chinese subsidiary released a statement on SNS Weibo on the 25th.

In addition, stated "adheres to the one-China principle" that Taiwan is part of China, "resolutely defends China's territory and sovereignty, and opposes any slander or hoax against China."

A spokesperson for ASICS said the statement was issued by a Chinese subsidiary with the consent of the head office.

In addition, he said in an interview with HuffPost Japan, "It is true that very small amounts of Xinjiang cotton are used only for local products released in China. Asics has a major premise of outsourcing production in consideration of human rights and the working environment." Some posts have been critical of the statement on Twitter in Japan, but there are no plans to withdraw it so far.

Besides, it has also been pointed out that Ryohin Keikaku's brand "MUJI" also uses raw materials from the Xinjiang Uygur Autonomous Region. HuffPost Japan has also applied for an interview to Ryohin Keikaku by e-mail. If there is a reply, it will be posted.
 

bettydice

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I used to hear plenty of talk that Chinese people would ditch Japanese cars permanently over a decade ago due to Sino-Japanese tensions. Despite the protests and cars being smashed up, Japanese cars remain fairly popular there.
Situations change and those incidents were long time ago. As far as I know, the China-Japan relationship has been restoring since Prime Minister of Japan, Shinzo Abe's visit to China in 2018.

There are several factors why Japanese cars sell well in China these days (some of them are what I read)

- China has conflicts with S.Korea over deployment of the US military's THAAD, and other anti-S.Korea issues. Back in 2012, China's relationship with Japan and S.Korea was the opposite, over Diaoyu/Senkaku territorial disputes with Japan. In contrast, in recent years S.Korean cars have lost Chinese market share significantly.

- Japanese car makers are committed in the Chinese market, like local manufacturing in China.

- Hybrid cars by Japanese car makers are successful thanks to Chinese government's policies in favor of eco-friendly cars.

- Japanese cars are recognized high-end by the Chinese.
 
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