Ladakh Flash Point

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ougoah

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The new antimissile tests China did, can they stop these Brahmos missiles?

Brahmos doesn't have the range to reach PLAAF bases but they can reach PLA positions and equipment e.g. SAM sites closer to areas of contention.

Chinese BMD tests are for anti-satellite, anti-warhead at mid phase/ terminal phase and the most recent BMD test performed was against hypersonic maneuvering vehicle as evidenced by huge turns being down by the interceptor. That's actually been the world first of intercepting a hypersonic target which is performing tight fast turns that change trajectory by significant range... enough to show interceptor zig zag with many kilometers of new trajectory travel.

These are not for Brahmos interception. It's overkill and BMD are designed for targets well within hypersonic speeds such as terminal phase or mid course warheads. For this purpose BMD missiles themselves require significant speed (well above intercept target's) to have a slight chance of success.

Brahmos can be intercepted with S-400, HQ-9, HQ-9B, HQ-16, HQ-16A/B, and possibly even HQ-17 because all these missiles (if they are positioned well) are capable of mach 3 or above energies. While Brahmos is a pretty large missile with a cold war era guidance and trajectory (not even upgraded Cold War era cruise missile intelligence e.g. radar avoidance, terrain following, low altitude flight, or expanded approach angles). Brahmos is only capable of relatively high altitude and straight path flight until homing into target and then it can reduce altitude depending on terrain only as it is in terminal phase.

Brahmos is also non-stealthy and relatively easy to detect compared to modern ordinance. Cruise missiles are more effective when they can follow terrain and approach from unexpected angles and can avoid radar e.g. now antique Silkworm variants KD-63 is able to do which is the least sophisticated one in PLA arsenal.

Oh and the cooperative technique where a single missile pops up above radar horizon and scans then relays info to rest of missiles is pretty old capabilities that's now more than common. Brahmos may include some version of that but its general flight path sort of makes that less useful and it's not operating at sea with flat terrain anyway here.
 
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Kakyan

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@Kakyan @twineedle

India's own government and military admit that Galwan was still under Chinese control up until negotiations and we have yet to hear whether they are resolved now. The new statements for Gora, Hot Springs, and Galwan were supposed to be delivered 48 hours after the initial MoD statements. Can someone link the new MoD statements?

So looks like India gave up Kailash as well as capitulate on 1959 deal. Reminder again that China has offered for 70 years to settle anywhere beyond F8. If they really wanted up to F3 the Chinese side would never have offered to settle past F3. India never wanted to settle for any less than F8. Now it has so if anything it is a pretty unprecedented Indian loss.
Galwan was resolved back in July itself.
Which is why it was NOT mentioend in recent statement
 

ougoah

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Galwan was resolved back in July itself.
Which is why it was NOT mentioend in recent statement

Yep my mistake. Indian MoD mentioned Gogra, hot springs and despsang as the other points not Galwan. I added it out of association. Those others are the other points of contention listed by India gov.
 

twineedle

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We all know india wants to invade Tibet. That's why india wants Aksai Chin so bad. Aksai Chin has no economic value, but it makes a good staging area to set up an invasion force. And india already harboring puppet government , known as Dalai Lama, ready to install in Tibet when ready. If india really has good intention toward China, it would not allow the Dalai Lama to stay in india at all. But lately, the Dalai Lama changed his mind, and declared it's OK for China to govern Tibet because Tibetan Living Standard has improved immensely under Chinese administration.
Using Sikkim as an example. Sikkim people are closely related to Tibetans. In 1975, Sikkim was "merged" (annexed under duress) with india. It was done by referendum(voting). The indians conduct the referendum. Problem is at least half of Sikkimese are illiterate. They can't read the ballots and don't know what they are voting for. So the indians use pink color ballots and pink color ballot boxes. They just told the Sikkimese to just drop the pink ballots in the pink ballot box. That's how the referendum was pass with the famous 99% indian majority. Eventually the Sikkim King was exiled to U.S. and died there. That's how india took control of little Sikkim (same type of people as Tibetans}.
Why would india want Tibet in the first place? India has uncontrollable population growth. There are currently 120 MILLION unemployed, jobless indians. About half of indian population are under the age of 26. So 1 MILLION young indians enter the job market each MONTH seeking employment when there's none. India need new land to house these youngsters.
China has to strengthen its defense along the Tibetan border by pinning the indian forces inside the narrow valleys and ravines of both Himalayan and Karakorum mountain ranges. If done correctly, the use of nuclear weapons are unnecessary. This is just my opinion.
Most Sikkimese are ethnic nepalis
 

KIENCHIN

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Apparently this Indian gives the reason for no videos from the Indian side. I believe him "110%".

That Indian soldier who shove commander Qi and is holding what appears to be a sharp object has a East Asian features. Tibetan by any chance, he seemed very enthusiastic in rushing across the river and went straight for the commander.
 
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