You are asking evidence of india not patrolling from China?
Shouldn't you ask that from Indian government?
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Shouldn't you ask that from Indian government?
I was waiting for Shukla and Sawhney to weigh in here. This basically settles it. Sawhney will probably go into further details in his next analysis video, but as expected, it's clear that India got out maneuvered both diplomatically and militarily. And as he has been saying from the start, this is just a preview of things to come over the next decade. The funny part is that India's political and military establishment has no interest in listening to people like Sawhney/Shukla, who actually understand what's happening, and whose forecasts are usually around 85% accurate. If they listened to analysts like this they'd actually get somewhere.
congratulations, you looked up a basic geographical fact. Obvioulsy the Galwan, like most indus tributaries, originates in China. However, the standoff there started when China claimed the whole thing and tried to prevent Indian patrols and bridge building in the valley. tHat is because China's 1959 claim line lies at the Galwan Mouth, where it joins the SHyok. Unfortunately for China, PLA failed to do that.
ACtually, I have already provided interviews of an Indian Army Officer who actually served on Pangong andwent into detail about Indian patrolling ops. Unlike Shukla and Sawhney who never even sered in LAdakh. Then again, you are only listening to them becasue they share your views, yet you discount other far more respected Indian analysts like Nitin Gokhale, Snehesh Alex Philip, Major Manik Jolly, Manu Pubby, as well as non- Indian experts such as Nathan Ruser, Dr. M Taylor Fravel, and Jeff Smith. Then again, you are not interested in learning about the ground reality or what the status quo was actually like, you are interested in an echo chamber.
BTW, according to Sawhney, there should have been a cyber/slgorithim war in 2020. that date got pushed to 2024. He also claimed that China would never disengage from Galwan, which it did in July. So much for being "always right"
You have also been force to vacate your own territory, by your logic. ANd we are still holding your territory in Galwan, according toy your 1959 claim line.You forgot that you went to claim galwan, only to "disengage" half kilometer.
Also you forgot to mention, you went beyond Finer 3, not 4, You were pushed within your own land
You also forgot, as part of "disengagement" , now you have to vacate all the so called height advantage within your own territory.
Most importantly, there is no "perceived territory". Either you have it or you don't. What china says is another matter. Now you can't patrol your own territory. China can "perceive" more territory & push you even further. Already they did vacate their claimed land
He is conveniently forgetting that Chinese claims in Depsang are actually 18-20 km west of the Y junction. Just like PLA blocks indian troops, India blocks PLA troops. And if we follow their 1959 cliaim line, india is terchically occupying hundred of sq km of Galwan.
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I don't know what a lungi is but as soon as you said zero achievements, I thought you must be talking about India...I thought he is chinese and pointing fingers at India .... he is from a country famous for lungis and zero achievements, some confused guys try to fight Indians from the region.
This ain't a tiger; this is a house cat with developmental delays. If it promises to be good, let it walk around. If it acts up, shove it back in the cage.
This is why Indian "logic" is unsuitable for science and technology.
Forced with no force. Where is the force? The guys who ran into a frozen river scattering or the guys who shot down your own helicopter? Which of those is the force? LOL
India's tradition: beg for food, then when given, proudly say you robbed it LOL
How would it benefit India to do anything now that status quo ante has been reached in almost all sectors? Even if India does recognize a line close to CHina's 1959 line, Chinese troops are still behind finger 8, and china is far from the line in otehr sectors(particularly Galwan, where the line is where the GAlwan meets the Shyok. India's main strategic goal of the standoff beyond acheiving status quo ante was to secure its strategic infrastructure, adn that has also been done now that PLA has moved back from the fingers. You yourself said India got the best deal possible and still holds more that China was willing to give in 1959.
OH, I have. You might want to go back some pages to view them If you are very sincere that is.
India has patrolled to Point 8, by foot.
China built the infrastructure between F8 and F4 after the flare up. India could've pushed its infra buildup beyond F2/3 but didn't (couldn't).
India started "insisting" when? If it is very well after the main events then I don't think you can claim that as India's original demand. Again, succinct responses to your claims has been posted. You may want to click back a few pages.
China claims till Finger 2. It hasn't violated the border agreements signed with India.
Are you denying you retreated ? Then again, denial of reality is a favorite pastime around here.
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