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Nobonita Barua

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Now that China have officially cleared the air regarding Galwan Valley clash with their newly released video. Its perhaps a good time to revisit an old Indian report of the Galwan Valley clash fresh right after the clash.

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Yeah 'most detailed' alright. 10% probable truths, 90% Bollywood fantasy.
You didnt read the link

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It was probably going for story section.

That script was written as if he was standing there :rolleyes::rolleyes:
 

Hadoren

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How in the world did dozens of Indians drown in that river? It doesn't even reach waist level!

Also, there were rumors that they fell of a cliff. But I don't see any cliff in the video...
 

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Most of us here don’t do racism cuz we’ve experienced it too much in the West.


That said hope PLA learns from this experience and doesn’t make the same mistake of sending 5 guys to negotiate with Indians without some way to guarantee safety.

I guess Indians thought Chinese were bitches this time around.

Fair enough.

But to be honest, sometimes you need to give it back. Asians living in west are far too soft for my liking.
When a racist insults you, taking it or simply complaining will only add more to his courage. They do this for psychological hold over others people.

Racism isn't what we like. But that doesn't mean we will let others take advantage of our generosity . Be good to good peoples, be worst to the wannabe bad guys, the Bangla style. And i am proud we are best at that. :cool: :cool:

If we do complain about another race it’s to point out their hypocrisy and racism.

Feels more righteous :cool:

@norbonita barua

I think you missed the point of what @localizer meant.

Most of don't do racism because we've seen and suffered it in the west. Which meams we don't dish it out on to others.

That's different to us taking shit from racists, we do not all take it lying down. Some of us give it back to those racist scums.
 

Nobonita Barua

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@norbonita barua

I think you missed the point of what @localizer meant.

Most of don't do racism because we've seen and suffered it in the west. Which meams we don't dish it out on to others.

That's different to us taking shit from racists, we do not all take it lying down. Some of us give it back to those racist scums.
I know what did he mean. I know some brave people give it back. But did it work?

What many people don't understand is, these racist , mostly verbal attack ,can't really harm victims physically. It is done with objective to give mental scar to you & people around you. These kinds of trash talk is easy for people like me or you to forget like it never happened. But not for all.To some these words are more harmful than physical brawl. And that's not acceptable to me.

You call them "racist scum", the problem is, that's what they want to hear,the word racist, the word scum is pretty much prevalent everywhere in their dictionary. And if you are in US, UK, or France, then they will tell you to get out of their country if you can't take it.

What i propose, is the bangla style. To those b--t---ds, i want to be "the racist". That's how i own the space.
We have taken same s--t from those indian apes who used to keep reminding us how they gave us independence, Lol. But things got boiled over at 2015. And that too over a sports event. Cricket world cup 2015 & their mauka mauka bs. Pretty childish, right?

Then when they visited us here & we defeated them, we gave them a proper sending, on road, on line & offline they would never forget. That was the starting.
Since then they have been begging us to converse in more "civilized" manner. Every single time we start talking to them, we start with monkeys, & ask them if their tail is all grown up yet. If you are familiar with their "central figures" of their dharma then you know what i'm talking about. The bangla name we call them are far more colorful. We hurt them where they cant take.

You see my point? When you walk among wolves, you have to let them know there is place for only one gangster in the room. And you have to do that from the word get go.
You never leave the space for them to say s--t to you or people around you that's going to leave a scar in their mind. You land the first blow.

If any fake americans say to me "dont ever come in America", i reply them " i will go to america as much as i want, time pack your bags & go back to euro sewer you came from you *&^*(^*&^&*^&*^*^*^*&(^%& " --- & you see how i become "the racists" quite intentionally

We never give it back. We own everything at first. That, my friend, is Bangla style. :cool::cool:
 

azretonov

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Quite the opposite, had China released this video earlier, it would show the world what really happened, helped de-escalate instead of the other way around.

I'm struggling to understand the logic behind the "show the world what really happened" mentality. The same thing is being suggested repeatedly by several people on this and India-China Relations threads, which is getting frustrating. The mindset of "what would the westerners think?" is utterly pointless, as they have no actual power over the events occurring somewhere in the Himalayas. Why do these people exaggerate the weight of the westerners' view, that's beyond me.

In cases such as this, selling the storyline is about public diplomacy. That has a negligible effect on this particular event, especially during a pandemic. If anything, one should be wary of those who lack consistency instead. By changing the narrative repeatedly, the Indian side left little room to operate. By the way, the trick they pulled with the media has nothing to do with information warfare.

I'm pretty sure Beijing has been using the formal channels of diplomacy to inform the concerned third parties, and that's sufficient. Beyond that, China is under no obligation to convince any random groups of people around the world.

Of course, if those who demand transparency are indeed constituents of China, this is hardly the right place to seek that.
 
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longmarch

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I'm struggling to understand the logic behind the "show the world what really happened" mentality. The same thing is being suggested repeatedly by several people on this and India-China Relations threads, which is getting frustrating. The mindset of "what would the westerners think?" is utterly pointless, as they have no actual power over the events occurring somewhere in the Himalayas. Why do these people exaggerate the weight of the westerners' view, that's beyond me.

In cases such as this, selling the storyline is about public diplomacy. That has a negligible effect on this particular event, especially during a pandemic. If anything, one should be wary of those who lack consistency instead. By changing the narrative repeatedly, the Indian side left little room to operate. By the way, the trick they pulled with the media has nothing to do with information warfare.

I'm pretty sure Beijing has been using the formal channels of diplomacy to inform the concerned third parties, and that's sufficient. Beyond that, China is under no obligation to convince any random groups of people around the world.

Of course, if those who demand transparency are indeed constituents of China, this is hardly the right place to seek that.
You are essentially saying public diplomacy is useless during conflict and pandemic. Utter nonsense.
 

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Now that China have officially cleared the air regarding Galwan Valley clash with their newly released video. Its perhaps a good time to revisit an old Indian report of the Galwan Valley clash fresh right after the clash.

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Yeah 'most detailed' alright. 10% probable truths, 90% Bollywood fantasy.


Of course it has to start with Col Babu being the 'cool guy'. Cool my ass. If it wasn't for him leading his army of Jawans to destroy the Chinese camp, the whole Galwan clash wouldn't have happened.


First of all, Mandarin Chinese, the official language of China, does not really have direct expletives. Other Chinese dialects like Cantonese, Hokkien, etc has. How would Col Babu know what is being said to him are expletives? Does he understand other Chinese dialects being said to him? LOL! C'mon!

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Does he consider this expletives then? That sign language? Col Santosh Babu has anger issues if he were to start a brawl from that.


Yeah pouncing on the Chinese when they were extremely outnumbered. That's very brave of the Jawans. Bravo!
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"The fight strictly was a proper fist-fight with no melee weapons of any kind." Yeah right. Then what the hell are we looking at?:
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These are the 'new' kind of PLA they encountered? Well they were asking for it for starting a deadly brawl.
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Good! He must have really felt that didn't he? Didn't wake up after that! That's what you get for murdering PLA troops to fulfil some Bollywood fantasy. Boys on both sides didn't have to die. But Col. Babu had different ideas. That is why I will not honour his death.


Where were those metal spiked clubs and barbed-wire wrapped rods? I haven't seen them in the Chinese-released video. Its not these that killed most the dead Jawans. Its plain old blunt weapons and the Galwan River itself. Afraid to admit it?


By this point, the Jawans were routed, fleeing for their lives. Tripping over on 'Chinese earthworks' (rocks maybe?) and plunging into the frigid Galwan River. No need to write an epic, we all know what really happened. We have seen Jawans couldn't even handle angry farmers, what more angry PLA soldiers?


Ah yes, off course. You just had to quote the great General VK Singh. The man with the IQ of a 14 year old. Its 4 PLA deaths. FYI.


Wrong General Singh. There was a prisoner exchange. And those were Indian soldiers.


Wrong again. The Indian Army Jawans fled and left their injured Jawans behind. So much for 'brave Jawans', and"leave no men behind". It was military disaster of the highest order. A true humiliating rout. The PLA had to find and treat the injured Jawans after the clash, and then return them after. We have seen similar things in the 1962 war.

Your Jawans have yet again proven to world that the Indian Army is not in the same league as the PLA. That is a military and national humiliation that cannot be hidden with mountains of BS. If course this is insulting for me to say since many Jawans lost their lives at Galwan. But I don't care. This is what India gets for continuously insulting China, the PLA, and the Chinese people.

Like always they were projecting. Ever wondered why when the Indian deaths were disclosed, they came from so many different regiments? Because this was definitely a premeditated by India. After being humiliated so many times before in melee combat, the Indians chose and picked the creme of the crop from different regiments hoping that they could beat and capture major PLA officials for propaganda purposes. Instead, the best that the IA could come up with got their asses handed to them once again by the very same exact PLA.
 

longmarch

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PLA just don't understand how to operate in a modern society. THEY JUST DON'T GET IT.

And they got no deterrent.

For those PLA cheerleaders, you want to play bet with me? Superpower 2020 will come back and bite you again.

NO DETERRENT! God damn it.

This border issue has become a safety valve for India's internal politics. You would think it should be otherwise. What a joke.
 
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