Infantry Combat Equipment (non-firearm): Vests, Body Armor, NVGs, etc.

schrodinger

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PAP wearing cans with their FAST-style with tactical hearing protection/headsets.

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"tactical hearing protection/headsets" AKA ear warmersQQ截图20210103060150.png
 

Aniah

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Why are they wearing knee pads on both legs and elbow pads on both arms? They don't offer sufficient benefits to balance their trade-offs.
What kind of trade-off is there? Never wore any before but it can't be that restrictive to movement?
 

LawLeadsToPeace

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What kind of trade-off is there? Never wore any before but it can't be that restrictive to movement?
Elbow kneepads can restrict forearm movement to a certain degree while leg kneepads make you feel, well, a bit bulkier. It all comes down to preference; however, in my opinion, leg kneepads are definitely useful if worn properly. You'll be kneeling a lot in order to stay low, and your knees are extremely vulnerable to injuries.
 

Dishi

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Why are they wearing knee pads on both legs and elbow pads on both arms? They don't offer sufficient benefits to balance their trade-offs.
Ahhh my young padawan, you won't say that after you're going prone with your rifles trained at a target for 30 mins on asphalt, they're life savers. Also, if you fall from height (say in an obstacle course) and land on your knees and elbows, it's gonna save you a lot of grief. I've seen some pretty bad falls and it ain't pretty. A couple of pads is far cheaper than a knee surgery. Pretty good trade off in my book.
 

Dishi

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What kind of trade-off is there? Never wore any before but it can't be that restrictive to movement?
Not too many trade offs, it can get hot during summer, cost the tax payers a little more, increase the chances of you having to do more push-ups if your Sargent tells you to get ready in 30s, snag on branches or in vehicles if you're not careful, and becoming shin guards if you have them too loose, and cut your circulation if they're too tight. And yea it can be abit restrictive at times, but you don't enlist in the army to do yoga, so it doesn't really get in the way of war fighting anyway. But the benefits in terms of comfort and safety is well worth it. Just my 50 cents.
 

mglcz

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You only need one knee pad to shoot when you are crouched, although I can understand the risk of injury is higher without one of them (not much tho). Regarding elbow pads, most soldiers avoid them as the elbow is very rarely injured, and they are a real constraint to a soldier's mobility and can affect their shooting. This is why you rarely see western soldiers with elbow pads, as they have had to deal with them, and found them too cumbersome to use.

I think this issue should be left to the individual soldier to decide, but previous experienced troops have said they are not worth it.
 

mglcz

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You only need one knee pad to shoot when you are crouched, although I can understand the risk of injury is higher without one of them (not much tho). Regarding elbow pads, most soldiers avoid them as the elbow is very rarely injured, and they are a real constraint to a soldier's mobility and can affect their shooting. This is why you rarely see western soldiers with elbow pads, as they have had to deal with them, and found them too cumbersome to use.

I think this issue should be left to the individual soldier to decide, but previous experienced troops have said they are not worth it.
Adding to my comment, most militaries you see wearing elbow pads are from arab, southeast asian and south asian countries, with little to no combat experience.
 
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