Infantry Combat Equipment (non-firearm): Vests, Body Armor, NVGs, etc.

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PAP wearing cans with their FAST-style with tactical hearing protection/headsets.

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Sunbud

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New optic used by PAP. View attachment 67084
The main optic itself is a either a different variant of the newly adopted optic by the army or the other optic that the army has adopted alongside the new optic often seen on the QBZ 191 that kinda looks like a Leopold HAMR. Its new but isn't news because we’ve known about it in circulation for many months now.

So it seems that the PAP is also adopting army equipment with some of their own changes.

the difference is theyve mounted a CQB red dot to the top of the sight via a bracket.

I do hope the army and really all fighting arms of the Chinese armed forces also adopt a backup red dot. They are a very useful addition and convenience in combat, and particularly increases effectiveness in CQB and urban combat.
 

The Observer

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The main optic itself is a either a different variant of the newly adopted optic by the army or the other optic that the army has adopted alongside the new optic often seen on the QBZ 191 that kinda looks like a Leopold HAMR. Its new but isn't news because we’ve known about it in circulation for many months now.

So it seems that the PAP is also adopting army equipment with some of their own changes.

the difference is theyve mounted a CQB red dot to the top of the sight via a bracket.

I do hope the army and really all fighting arms of the Chinese armed forces also adopt a backup red dot. They are a very useful addition and convenience in combat, and particularly increases effectiveness in CQB and urban combat.

Would the backup red dot be too high up that you lose your cheek weld and therefore offset the gain of having a red dot? The optic mount itself already looks pretty high, so I'm not so sure about the red dot increasing effectiveness in CQB.
 

Sunbud

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Would the backup red dot be too high up that you lose your cheek weld and therefore offset the gain of having a red dot? The optic mount itself already looks pretty high, so I'm not so sure about the red dot increasing effectiveness in CQB.
You lose cheek weld with basically all back up red dots. It normally becomes a chin weld. But the point of a red dot is you do not necessarily need a perfect sight alignment which a cheek weld assists in. As long as the laser reticule is in view, you will be on target.

And in building clearing (basically point blank room to room engagements) more often than not, youre likely to hip fire from the shoulder as in not aiming down sight.
 
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The Observer

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You lose cheek weld with basically all back up red dots. It normally becomes a chin weld. But the point of a red dot is you do not necessarily need a perfect sight alignment which a cheek weld assists in. As long as the laser reticule is in view, you will be on target.

And in building clearing (basically point blank room to room engagements) more often than not, youre likely to hip fire from the shoulder as in not aiming down sight.
would a laser/flashlight not be better in that case? or maybe as a combination between a red dot and laser/flashlight?
 

Sunbud

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would a laser/flashlight not be better in that case? or maybe as a combination between a red dot and laser/flashlight?
Looking at other leading militaries around the world, I would imagine the near-future front line PLA soldier would be equipped with a laser/light module as well. So in an ideal world, all three (Main optic, Backup red dot and a laser-light module). But lasers are quite necessary for fighting with NVGs. I'm not sure how useful lasers are for CQB in military application. Flashlights are used yes, to see but also to stun and blind the enemy. within 50m, red dots are pretty good fighting sights, but for room to room combat, you're often literally relying on your reflexes, muscle memory and spatial awareness to aim and fire.
 

TerraN_EmpirE

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would a laser/flashlight not be better in that case? or maybe as a combination between a red dot and laser/flashlight?
This isn’t unique to the PLA. The cowitnessed optic is pretty much the modern standard. Flash lights don’t work as well in daylight and at night for the ranges in question are a “hello shoot me” deal” you might stun a single opponent in the light but one of his buddies might get the drop on you for the trouble.
Lasers are great for low light assuming you are dealing with adversaries who can’t see the laser.
the Higher mounting of a cowitnessed mini dot is something of a trade off. How high that mount is will very based on weapon. QBZ95 as we know has an unusually high mount due to the carry handle set up. G36 came standard with a cowitnessed dot back in 96 and that is a little high by modern standard. ACOG and other modern systems on AR15 based rifles as well as SCAR, Tavor, ACE and more tend to sit lower because of the flat top rail so it would very based on the host optic. HAMR modern ACOG often come from the factory with an cowitnessed mini dot. some of the latest western developed combat optics have them fully integrated into the system.
Modern sniper scopes can additionally be augmented with one by modified scope ring.
 
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