The fact that most western countries and pro western except Germany ditched Huawei and ZTE speak volume of post WWII order.
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manqiangrexue
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That they had to be made hostages for a one time submission speaks volumes of America's true influence.
Yet is the key word, and every time America makes a mistake and oversteps its welcome with economic sanctions, the day the dollar falls draws closer.
Speaks volumes when the largest EU member and supposed American ally refuses to ban Huawei, and almost all the other Western allies had to be threatened to abandon Huawei. America is losing its influence by the day and even its allies know it.
Heck, it can't even sanction a small middle eastern country without its European allies kicking up a fuss. And somehow you think that 10 years from now America will still be able to lock China out nilly willy?
manqiangrexue
Brigadier
Crunch some numbers, Bo. What does that mean? What about Huawei's total revenue? Research funds? Since you're making so much noise, let's compare your numbers to the real ones. So far, none of your "Huawei's done for" bull crap as stood up to the numbers released.
Intercept shipments of cellphones and telecoms materials at sea? From a nuclear country? LOL You got quite the imagination, Bo. China's not Iran. And also, China's shipping route to Europe go by land and air. The stuff that goes by sea is typically cheap/heavy stuff.
PS. What's with the yup and nah? Your different personas having a conversation again? LOL
I don't think it has anything to do with 5G.
I don't disagree with the sanction power either. However, you can leverage sanction effectively only if you are manufacturing, have goods/services, importing/exporting. US is currently riding share of it's luck it got due to it's backdoor deal 5 decades ago.
Right now they are doing nothing but want to have powers. That's really childish. So in this state, what will happen if there is an alternate financial system is going to be interesting to see.
US had intercepted China ship before like milkyway to Iran. China minimal nuke stance doesn't mean much. It's only retaliatory strike on home land. Even India willing to challenge China at border. At highsea forget it. Its nuke power status is not much.
Other countries are scared being intercepted by US Navy at highsea.
Almost all countries scared by US sanction. Just look at foreigb companies stop supplying Huawei.
Can't take the easy way out. Countries won't just accept China eventually. It's an order being imposed upon.
You don't change geopolitically not much will changed. And it doesn't have to be WWIII.
Other countries are scared being intercepted by US Navy at highsea.
Almost all countries scared by US sanction. Just look at foreigb companies stop supplying Huawei.
Can't take the easy way out. Countries won't just accept China eventually. It's an order being imposed upon.
You don't change geopolitically not much will changed. And it doesn't have to be WWIII.
Hi horse,Hi ansy1968, just for fun, I want your advice.
Yours truly, horse, loaned to my friend, donkey, $103 Canadian dollars.
Horse asked his friend donkey, after a couple of months, when can he pay it back. Donkey repays horse $1.
A couple of months past, and horse sees his donkey on the street, and they talk and and the subject of the horse lending donkey money came up, and donkey being a friend repays horse $2.
Horse is happy because he knows donkey will come through.
A year later, horse always sees donkey on the street and they talk, but donkey still owes horse that $100 bucks. But horse if fully confident that donkey will pay him back.
Horse told his wife about that, that donkey owes horse $100. Horse's wife kind of said nothing but kind of made a face, like how only a woman can do. But horse's confidence is not shaken, he is convinced his friend will re-pay that $100 and donkey will come through.
It has been two years now, and donkey has not paid horse back.
Horse is not deterred, he if fully confident donkey will come though.
So, that is why I need advice. Do you think donkey will come through at this point, I believe horse's wife made up her mind, but horse is fully confident donkey will come through and pay him back.
It has only been two years, and horse is confident that donkey will come through and pay him back.
hahaha I admired your confidence
, well IF the purpose of your loan is to help, then you had done a good thing. If not then you had a valid reason to never loan him again. It's how you value your friendship, I hope my advise may suffice, you know the Asian way, charge it to experience....