Chinese Economics Thread

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horse

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emblem21 said:
You said it, Chinese companies have the whole of the world including China to do business, the companies in the USA need China to survive and grow. If they really want China to give them some, as a last resort, China can raise the licensing tax for there companies until they end up breaking. If they do this while the USA is in the middle of the election crisis, the damage will be epic.
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It's not that. It's the details behind the Ant Financial IPO.

Since it is out of the jurisdiction of the United States, and will not be using USD for the issuance of shares bypassing the SWIFT, there is nothing the United States can do unless they threaten all the underwriters making the stock offering.

Therefore, nothing will happen.

However, if they really that stupid, and start making it illegal for certain foreign companies to do any transactions that go through SWIFT, that is where the fun starts.

China has nothing to lose if US Dollar hegemony is put at risk, where the United States does have something to lose.

That is why those people who brought up this Ant Financial IPO, those talking heads on TV in America, they shut up.

They don't like that.

Good.

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emblem21

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horse said:
It's not that. It's the details behind the Ant Financial IPO.

Since it is out of the jurisdiction of the United States, and will not be using USD for the issuance of shares bypassing the SWIFT, there is nothing the United States can do unless they threaten all the underwriters making the stock offering.

Therefore, nothing will happen.

However, if they really that stupid, and start making it illegal for certain foreign companies to do any transactions that go through SWIFT, that is where the fun starts.

China has nothing to lose if US Dollar hegemony is put at risk, where the United States does have something to lose.

That is why those people who brought up this Ant Financial IPO, those talking heads on TV in America, they shut up.

They don't like that.

Good.

:oops:
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Oh, fair enough, my bad, But still, it is quite interesting that the longer this situation develops, the more card China has to play with while the USA is long options the longer they go on
 
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Tyler

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emblem21 said:
Oh, fair enough, my bad, But still, it is quite interesting that the longer this situation develops, the more card China has to play with while the USA is long options the longer they go on
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That is very ridiculous that they are trying to interfere with a foreign company listing in a foreign stock exchange. Especially that Rubio guy that should be banned from greater China.

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Petrolicious88

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Xsizor said:
Environmental protection will become a priority quite naturally as cities climb in their per capita incomes and the citizens demand better Quality of life.

I think the current rate of Greenifying is enough. More could be done if the cities climb in prosperity.
Economy > Environment.
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I would put environmental protection on par with economic growth.

20 years ago I would have said economy above environment. Being the manufacturing center of the world is good and all that. But manufacturing is a dirty business. China needs to not forget about protecting its soil, ground water, in its drive to further industrialize.
 
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Petrolicious88

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Yes. Global warming is coming as well. It will place further strain on water supply, food supply. Industrialization without environmental protection is a recipe for disaster.

And once ground water (which took decades to slowly accumulate) or soil is polluted beyond a certain threshold, they are gone forever.
 
AssassinsMace

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emblem21 said:
Man they just love to complain right now
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China has a hard time setting up businesses in the US because of political prejudice. That's why there aren't a lot of actually Chinese businesses operating in the US. In TPP terms, China could sue the US for it and the US would have to compensate for all losses. That's one of the reasons why they don't want China a part of TPP. They don't count that when it comes to how friendly a country is to foreign businesses.
 
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