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[tamsen_ikard]

That excellently sums up the reason why US and Japan are likely to intervene in a violent attempt at re-unification. They either do that or cede their dominance of the western Pacific to (from their POV) hostile China.

Having said that, I still think it is possible for China to achieve unification without a fight and in a way that would not be challenged by the US and Japan. Long ago, Sun Yat Sen had a dream of a unified, strong and independent, yet democratic China. If the CCP can make that dream come true, then Taiwan would be irresistibly drawn into its orbit and both the US and Japan disarmed in their attempts to resist it.

If they don't cede their dominance of western pacific in peace, then they will fight a war in China's own backyard, lose badly, get humiliated, lose huge number of ships, planes and people, and then lose their dominance of the entire world since losing all those hardware and troops will take a long time to replace and many players around the world will take that opportunity assert their power.

This is the choice China will force upon US after it gets stronger than US in the next 20-30 years. It will be double US GDP and much bigger military budget. Then even if US wants to fight China in its backyard, it will see a certain defeat and back down from it. Or it could become foolish and commit a blunder to actually fight and lose which will cause massive loss of US power all over the world.

 

[manqiangrexue]

That excellently sums up the reason why US and Japan are likely to intervene in a violent attempt at re-unification. They either do that or cede their dominance of the western Pacific to (from their POV) hostile China.

Not if they calculate that that fight could cost them their lives or simply result in humiliation with no other alternative.

Having said that, I still think it is possible for China to achieve unification without a fight and in a way that would not be challenged by the US and Japan. Long ago, Sun Yat Sen had a dream of a unified, strong and independent, yet democratic China. If the CCP can make that dream come true, then Taiwan would be irresistibly drawn into its orbit and both the US and Japan disarmed in their attempts to resist it.

The whole world can become communist before China becomes a democracy (not that China even wants to spread its own governmental style). Good thing Sun Yet Sen failed, otherwise China would be another India mired in inefficiency and incompetence. 23 million people get their way over 1.4 billion? What a Western dream; your way is thoughtless, idiotic and unacceptable. It befits your own people, not the Chinese. Chinese dominion over the ROC will not be challenged by Japan or the US because they will be powerless to challenge it and they will be disarmed by that. China will reunite the ROC peacefully when no one would dare fight China and the ROC understands that. If they wish to be irresistibly drawn, they may do so by the chance to be part of a superpower instead of a minnow and a pawn.

China's only future is in power; there is no other way. Fearful Westerners should not waste their time trying to persuade China off its course as if they were offering candy and video games to dissuade some child from his studies. It's pathetic and useless.

 

[Skywatcher]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1309074695929683968

China making it completely clear that arrogant US needs to check its brains before thinking such arrogant and foolish actions. Putting troops in Taiwan will spark the war.

Who the ***k at Military Review let that piece of idiocy get published? Everyone, their dog, and the dog's fleas (except for CPT Mills) knows that third party troops on Taiwan means instant WWIII.

 

[Nobonita Barua]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1309074695929683968

China making it completely clear that arrogant US needs to check its brains before thinking such arrogant and foolish actions. Putting troops in Taiwan will spark the war.

Lol.
Ya keep doing that. By doing so, you are literally saying there will be war on your soil & you are going to die.
I would say that's exactly what US wants. To keep the war from its own home & territory as far as possible.
Pretty sure they knew your guys would pick up this article & they wanted to judge your reaction.

 

[Nobonita Barua]

Having said that, I still think it is possible for China to achieve unification without a fight and in a way that would not be challenged by the US and Japan. Long ago, Sun Yat Sen had a dream of a unified, strong and independent, yet democratic China. If the CCP can make that dream come true, then Taiwan would be irresistibly drawn into its orbit and both the US and Japan disarmed in their attempts to resist it.

Sure. As good friend of China, we promise that we will try everything to make China democratic after our demand is met.
We want a free America recognized as Native America, will be equally distributed to all people across the globe like the native Americans. The native American genocide will be recognized by globe & those responsible will be brought to justice.
We will start on our promise as soon as US leaves America.
Do we have a deal?

 

[Nobonita Barua]

If they don't cede their dominance of western pacific in peace, then they will fight a war in China's own backyard,

Ya. But because they will be fighting in your backyard, the casualty & loss will be mostly yours. How are you planning to level that up?

 

[tamsen_ikard]

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[Nobonita Barua]

Who the ***k at Military Review let that piece of idiocy get published? Everyone, their dog, and the dog's fleas (except for CPT Mills) knows that third party troops on Taiwan means instant WWIII.

Ya. They fought WW2 in Europe & Asia Pacific. They will be fighting WW3 in your home.

 

[manqiangrexue]

Ya. They fought WW2 in Europe & Asia Pacific. They will be fighting WW3 in your home.

A takeover of the ROC was always going to happen in Asia; how could it happen elsewhere? If reuniting the country takes some bloodshed, then so be it.

On another note, wars aren't fought like they were before. It's not total ruin of occupied cities anymore. It's high-intensity and short, mostly military targets by precision strikes. China's got its targets that it needs to hit to incapacitate the enemy without killing thousands of civilians but if the US escalates beyond a certain point, mainly striking civilian targets in the mainland rather than swatting at some PLAAF fighters with whatever they can get past China's ASMBs, then China should directly attack the US since it is actually WWIII instead of a short limited conflict. China has warned that it will go to nuclear war trading cities with the US. Don't take "no first use" at face value.

 

[Max Demian]

Good thing Sun Yet Sen failed, otherwise China would be another India mired in inefficiency and incompetence. 23 million people get their way over 1.4 billion? What a Western dream; your way is thoughtless, idiotic and unacceptable. It befits your own people, not the Chinese.

You are mistaken. Democracy does not imply tolerance or propensity towards separatism. Take a good look at how little progress separatist movements have made in the West.

There are plenty of countries that are strong, yet democratic. There is no reason to assume that a democratic China would be weaker than it is today. I also fail to follow your argument that democracy, an ostensibly western idea does not befit the Chinese, while another western idea, communism does? Western or Oriental provenance is completely irrelevant. China, like most countries, has discovered and will keep discovering what works best for it. It doesn't have to be democracy. I am just saying that if it was, it would make unification a bloodless affair.