Coronavirus 2019-2020 thread (no unsubstantiated rumours!)

Absolutely right, as I warned earlier our numbers are indeed shocking, but citizens are by and large following Govt guidelines, this will work, and the curve will soon flatten out.
Well, it would be nice if the federal government would give us the aid we need. We are getting screwed by the proposed aid package, and Trump is proud of sending us four HUNDRED ventilators... This is no time for bipartisan politics and congressional deadlock, and I won't mention anything about Trump since that at be too political, but thank God for Cuomo!
 

tidalwave

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US carrier Roosevelt now docked in Guam under quarantine as a number sailors diagnosed with COVID-19. How did they got it? Most likely showboating in South China Sea and docked at Vietnam when the outbreak already happened. THe Vietnamese navy interacted with US navy intensively during that time. 36 sailors diagnosed with the virus.
While at US carrier Reagan at Japan, 2 sailors diagnosed.

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siegecrossbow

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New York has ramped up to 16,000 tests per day this week, which is more than the entire nation's of Korea, Germany, and Spain. From what I observed, even though loosely enforced, social distancing is being taken seriously and I am not seeing people out on the streets (at least in Queens, can't be sure about other boroughs). The nonstop emergency services sirens (literally non stop) serve as from reminder to people to stay home and flatten the curve. I feel confident that within the next two weeks, the numbers of new infections in NY are going to start going down.

As I've stated before regarding the situation in China, ramping up testing will make the numbers look bad, but it is good for exposing the problem and providing aid to those who need it.
 

KYli

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New York has ramped up to 16,000 tests per day this week, which is more than the entire nation's of Korea, Germany, and Spain. From what I observed, even though loosely enforced, social distancing is being taken seriously and I am not seeing people out on the streets (at least in Queens, can't be sure about other boroughs). The nonstop emergency services sirens (literally non stop) serve as from reminder to people to stay home and flatten the curve. I feel confident that within the next two weeks, the numbers of new infections in NY are going to start going down.

Looking at Italy, the kinds of social distance that implemented in the US are not enough to drastically slow down the number of new infections. That means that even though NY might have been able to flatten the curve in another two weeks. New infections would still stay in thousands per day for a prolong period of time. I am more worried about if the NY hospital system can cope with the surge of new patients in the coming weeks.

In addition, Georgia, Louisiana, Illinois, Michigan, and Florida have become very problematic very quickly. New Jersey, California, and Massachusetts don't look good. Not sure the federal government has enough resource to distribute since it is still dragging its feet.
 

KYli

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As I've stated before regarding the situation in China, ramping up testing will make the numbers look bad, but it is good for exposing the problem and providing aid to those who need it.

The thing is like Italy, the US has allowed mild patients to stay at home and being taken care of by their family members which pose significant risks to their family members and neighbors.
 

manqiangrexue

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As I've stated before regarding the situation in China, ramping up testing will make the numbers look bad, but it is good for exposing the problem and providing aid to those who need it.
To really gauge the depth of the problem, I prefer to focus on the death toll. Higher infected number could mean better testing or greater infection; it's not certain. Rather the number of casualties really describes the all-inclusive big picture fight between the infection against the health care system and gives us a better look at how well the nation is faring against the virus.
 

Air Force Brat

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Do you know the experience and the numbers?

China started social distancing with 1,300 infections on January 24, 2020 and ended with around 80,000 infections

Italy started with 12,500 infections on March 11, 2020, the curve is flattening out

Germany started on March 18, 2020 with 12,500 infections and is eagerly waiting for the flattening

You need a lot of patience.

Yes!
 

Air Force Brat

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The thing is like Italy, the US has allowed mild patients to stay at home and being taken care of by their family members which pose significant risks to their family members and neighbors.

We have, and that is almost all cultural, patients are being urged to avoid going to the hospital unless they are truly in need of "hospital level care", but if they are following instructions, they will self "isolate". People here are very cognizant of social distancing, washing hands, gloving, and some are wearing masks, so I'm extremely happy with my health care and access to care for myself and my family....

as I mentioned earlier, much of this is "cultural", the highest rate of infection continues to occur in the countries with the greatest influx and outflow of people, and we in the US are a very "mobile" culture, it defines who we are, but we are all restricting our travel and association with others on a very large scale...
 

OppositeDay

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The biggest problem with the US response is it's too uncoordinated. I'm sure new cases in NY will see a peak in a couple of weeks, but then what? Is NY going to close its border with states who haven't gone through a lockdown? Can states even do that without breaking the constitution? In my state here in the flyover country (this is one of the rare instances where having others just flew over is a good thing), we don't even have a statewide coordinated response, counties are calling their own shots. The county government in my little college town ordered us to shelter in place but everything are being carried on as normal in nearby counties, because they haven't seen many cases YET. I'm afraid once things are under control here, our neighbors will have their own outbreaks and we're just playing whack-a-mole with the virus.
 

Air Force Brat

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To really gauge the depth of the problem, I prefer to focus on the death toll. Higher infected number could mean better testing or greater infection; it's not certain. Rather the number of casualties really describes the all-inclusive big picture fight between the infection against the health care system and gives us a better look at how well the nation is faring against the virus.

Exactly, the countries where "testing" is being pushed as the "be all, and end all", of corona virus treatment have higher numbers of confirmed cases and lower death rates. The countries, such as the US where treatment of the most severe cases is the priority, rather than testing, show a lower number of "confirmed" cases, and a commensurately higher death rate..

As the need to treat severe cases begins to abate, I'm sure there will likely be more large scale testing, just as China is currently doing.

The countries with the highest infection rate, with a corresponding higher death rate, are all high mobility countries: China, Italy, Spain, UK, and the US, with relatively fewer restrictions on travel between one another..

Almost every country has attempted to restrict travel as the first line of defense, I'm certain that has reduced the total number of cases overall, in addition those countries where a higher priority has been placed on testing, have fewer ongoing cases of transmission....

I'm rather certain that each of us have become more concerned about COVID-19, as it has become a factor in our own country.
 
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