CV-17 Shandong (002 carrier) Thread I ...News, Views and operations

[H2O]

Hi if possible can somebody let me know why the ACC are starting from 16 & onward why not 01/02
Thank you

I have no idea on the Shandong, but for the Liaoning can be explained below:

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Its pennant number - a type of naval identification - is 16. "Do you know why the Liaoning has been numbered 16?" Xu asked. "It was because we spent 16 years getting the job done, from making the deal to rebuilding it."

 

[Intrepid]

... can be explained below: [...]

Minnie Chan, the most reliable source of information in the world.

 

[Deleted member 13312]

Question..When will the PLAN have enough aircraft to fully operate both CV-16 & CV-17? Any ideas? Thanks!

I would believe the opposite of what Interpid claims, for China, the CV-16 and the CV-17 will represent the totality of Chinese naval aviation capabilities for the next half decade at least until China gets their next carrier up and running and even then they will represent a significant portion of carriers that China can call up in an emergency even if they are classified as "carriers".

 

[taxiya]

I have no idea on the Shandong, but for the Liaoning can be explained below:

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Its pennant number - a type of naval identification - is 16. "Do you know why the Liaoning has been numbered 16?" Xu asked. "It was because we spent 16 years getting the job done, from making the deal to rebuilding it."

By that logic, it could have been CV-14, 15 or CV-17, 18. I don't think PLAN is so arbitrary and sentimental as SCMP and Minnie Chan. Though I do find that starting from 16 is mysterious.

 

[Intrepid]

Though I do find that starting from 16 is mysterious.

The Chinese use the same shirt colors and the same hand signals as the US Navy. Therefore, I do not consider it unlikely that they chose the same penannt number for their main training aircraft carrier as the one with the most take-offs in the US Navy.

 

[Jura The idiot]

now noticed the tweet

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5 jours après sa livraison à la marine chinoise, le porte-avions 17 Shandong a pris le large le 23 Décembre, probablement pour démarrer une série d'essais nationaux et d'entraînements d'équipage. Il faudrait encore 1 à 2 ans pour que le bâtiment et son groupe soient opérationnels
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5 days after its delivery to the Chinese Navy, the aircraft carrier 17 Shandong took off on December 23, probably to start a series of national tests and crew training. It would still take 1 to 2 years for the building and its group to be operational

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[taxiya]

The Chinese use the same shirt colors and the same hand signals as the US Navy. Therefore, I do not consider it unlikely that they chose the same penannt number for their main training aircraft carrier as the one with the most take-offs in the US Navy.

I don't get what you are trying to say.

1. even though PLAN may emulate some USN practice, why copy a number 16 from USN?
2. Or, if 16 is a PLAN number, it could not be a "most take-off" because there was non in PLAN before CV-16.

 

[TK3600]

Maybe 16 is when first ship was ready? 2016?

 

[Richard Santos]

Nobody knows.

May be, 01/02 are reserved for more important ships (nuclear carriers?).

What happens when they’ve built 15 nuclear carriers, how will they number the 16th?

 

[no_name]

Starting from 16 because they eventually want to always have 15 100kt nuclear powered EM-cat electric propulsion carriers.

Well a guy can dream.

Have they painted the number on the new LHD yet? Maybe they want to have 15 LHDs instead.