Hong-Kong Protests

plawolf

Lieutenant General
These are scenes that will be censored by the western MSM, even social media is being zealous in purging such dangerous content from their networks.

Notice how all the pictures that accompany western MSM accounts are always exclusively or overwhelmingly of police in some ‘aggressive’ looking moments, whereas you will be hard pressed to find any images of rioters in the act of attacking police or civilians.

Western correspondents on the ground cannot escape seeing the reality, yet their reporting still always follow the party line, meaning they are active participants in propaganda and riot instigation. When they pull the same politically motivated BS in places like Gaza, the Israelis answer with sniper fire aimed at the gaps in their body armour. And China is the ‘oppressive tyranny’. :rolleyes:

Beijing is playing the long game. They know that the longer this goes on, the more the silent majority will turn against the rioters.

Once what little popular support they currently have evaporates, these thugs will need to give up or ramp up their violence. If they do the later and cross certain red lines like killing police officers, Beijing will come down on them like a ton of bricks, and the majority of HK will cheer them on as they do it.

Beyond any direct custodial punishment, China should also compile a database of violence rioters and make sure they are blacklisted at every Chinese company and companies that does business with China on national security grounds.

Collaborators like these who openly want to sell out this fellow countrymen and government to hostile foreign forces cannot be allowed to gain any positions of power for them to better carry out their perverted and poisonous ideology.
 
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Egregious intent hurting Hong Kong police
Source:Global Times Published: 2019/8/26 17:10:19
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This past weekend, Hong Kong saw another violent demonstration. Black-clad extremist thugs hurled Molotov cocktails at the police, smashed police cars and even laid siege to a group of officers, threatening their safety and forcing officers to fire warning shots.

At the same time, some unscrupulous reporters did not report the egregious acts of the rioters, but took pictures of the police being forced to raise their guns, implying that the police was brutal. On Sunday, a video segment of police kicking a kneeling demonstrator went viral in Hong Kong. But the video had scenes deleted before and after the incident. The doctored clip was intended to discredit the police.

After more than a week of relatively peaceful demonstrations, the violence has escalated and the use of Molotov cocktails, sticks and bricks has increased. What's more, all this has led to rioters ganging up against the police, which is intended to force the police strengthen defensive measures portrayed by biased journalists as unreasonable and cruel suppression by cops, worsening public sentiment, and allowing the situation to escalate.

These are not only vicious but malevolent thugs working tacitly with unscrupulous journalists to mislead world opinion. Looking at the entire video, the scenes of police cars being smashed and police officers being chased are distressing. It would be unthinkable for the police to be threatened by rioters like this in any American or British city.

From the outset, violent demonstrations have targeted Hong Kong's police force. Hong Kong radical public opinion focuses on smearing the law enforcement of the police. As everyone knows, the Hong Kong Special Administrative Region does not have an army of its own, and the police are the only law-enforcement force equipped with light weapons. Injuring the police is tantamount to overthrowing the rule of law in Hong Kong. Therefore, various reports are constantly trying to undermine the power of the police. Violent protesters attacked the police, and persecuted and harassed their family members. It's all about breaking the morale of the police and breaking the team.

Hong Kong police have shown rare restraint and professionalism in the face of complexity. They have worked extremely hard to maintain order in Hong Kong. Not only the society of Hong Kong but the whole country should pay our sincere respects to them.

It is conceivable that the failure to force the HKSAR government to accept the conditions will lead to even more violent thugs and possibly more severe challenges for the Hong Kong police to enforce the law.

It is worth noting that the people of Hong Kong who love Hong Kong and the country are also taking more active measures to support the police, and the state also provides stronger support for the cops. In order to crack down on the aggression of the rioters, we expect the police to take more targeted and resolute measures with support from all walks of life, and arrest more rioters on the spot. Only in this way can we curb the violence of Hong Kong extremists and turn the situation around.

It is crucial for Hong Kong police to keep up the morale and enhance combat capabilities. The constructive forces in Hong Kong and the whole country do not want the situation to hurt the police force and force the city into anarchy until it reaches the point where the state has to take measures. It is a serious question whether the forces that are attacking and slandering Hong Kong's police know exactly what they are doing, who among them is being dragged in and who is viciously promoting the escalation of the situation.

Hong Kong police will face a tougher test next weekend when the opposition announces an August 31 rally. We believe that they will show their admirable loyalty to the people of Hong Kong and the city, and that they will show their peers around the world that they are worthy of the glorious title of the police.
 
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Beijing talks up case for intervention in Hong Kong, labelling protests ‘colour revolution’
  • Xinhua moves from previous comparisons with ‘colour revolution’ to directly giving the protests that description
  • It quotes late leader Deng Xiaoping as having said Beijing ‘should intervene’ if there were turmoil in Hong Kong
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Beijing has sent its strongest warning yet that it could deal directly with the protests in Hong Kong, calling them “colour revolutions” and amplifying warnings from senior advisers that the city is engulfed in a battle that would defend or destroy “one country, two systems”.

In a commentary published on Sunday night, state news agency Xinhua also quoted late Chinese leader Deng Xiaoping as having said in 1984 that the mainland government “should intervene” in the event of unrest in the city.

The commentary was a shift from previous state media tirades that compared the Hong Kong protests to a
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to directly apply the label – widely used to refer to uprisings in countries in eastern Europe in the early 2000s – to the unrest.

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given at the weekend by Xu Ze, head of the semi-official Chinese Association of Hong Kong and Macau Studies and a former deputy director of the Hong Kong and Macau Affairs Office – China’s top Hong Kong policy office. Xu said Hong Kong risked “sinking into an abyss”, and described the unrest as “a decisive battle between defending or destroying ‘one country, two systems’”.

Xinhua’s commentary said: “The recent [events] in Hong Kong … have gone beyond normal demonstrations and rallies, and were ‘colour revolutions’ meant to fundamentally destroy constitutional law and order of the [Hong Kong] special administrative region. We cannot condone [such acts] and they must be dealt with in accordance with the law.”

It quoted Deng as saying that “if there is turmoil [in Hong Kong], the central government should intervene”.

It was referring to Deng telling a Hong Kong and Macau delegation in 1984 that “some people are worried about intervention”.

“Some interventions are necessary,” Deng said. “It depends on whether these interventions are beneficial to the interests of Hong Kong people, to the prosperity and stability of Hong Kong. It now appears that Hong Kong will spend 13 years in an orderly manner from now to 1997. After 13 years, there will be an orderly 50 years. I am confident in this.”

He went on to say: “If there is turmoil, the central government should intervene.”

Sunday’s Xinhua commentary added: “Hence, it is clearly stipulated in the Basic Law [Hong Kong’s mini-constitution] and the Garrison Law, and it’s not only the authority of the central government but also its responsibility.”

The news agency published the article to commemorate Deng’s meeting 40 years ago with Hong Kong’s then governor Murray MacLehose to discuss the city’s future, when Deng first spoke about the concept that became
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– the principle under which Hong Kong was returned to Chinese rule in 1997 but retained certain freedoms.

The commentary coincided with a 12th successive weekend of anti-government protests in Hong Kong as violent scenes returned after a calmer mood the previous week. The protests were triggered in early June by a since-abandoned extradition bill that would have allowed the transfer of criminal suspects to jurisdictions including mainland China, where critics say there is no guarantee of a fair trial.

Xu had said in his speech on Saturday at a seminar in Shenzhen, near the Hong Kong border: “The violent activities happening in Hong Kong have undermined the fundamental interests of Hong Kong and our country, and they have been going on for a period of time.

“If we allow them to spread and develop, Hong Kong faces the risk of sinking into an abyss.

“It is also no exaggeration that this has become a decisive battle between defending or destroying one country, two systems,” he said at an event organised by the Chinese Association on Hong Kong and Macau Studies.

China’s state media has stepped up its attacks on the Hong Kong protests this month, with recent articles
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including Hong Kong’s former chief secretary Anson Chan Fang On-sang, former lawmakers Martin Lee Chu-ming and Albert Ho Chun-yan, and media tycoon Jimmy Lai Chee-ying for “bringing ruin to Hong Kong”.

Xinhua continued its attacks on Lai on Monday, blaming him for “blatantly inciting Hong Kong’s subversion against China”.

Wang Zhenmin, the former legal chief of Beijing’s liaison office in Hong Kong, also spoke at Saturday’s seminar in Shenzhen, warning of “dire consequences” for the city if one country, two systems fell apart.

Maria Tam Wai-chu, a deputy chairwoman of the Basic Law Committee – under the Standing Committee of China’s legislature, the National People’s Congress – has said that one country, two systems, with the high level of autonomy it guaranteed for Hong Kong, did not prevent the Beijing government from intervening.

“Chaos is happening in Hong Kong, and the central government of course can intervene,” she reportedly said. “Intervention would be to bring [the city] back to order and get one country, two systems on the right track.”

Despite the strongly worded rhetoric, a scholar familiar with Hong Kong affairs said Beijing had yet to decide that it was time to mobilise its military to resolve matters in Hong Kong, which would be only a last resort if all other options failed.

Tian Feilong, a Hong Kong affairs expert at Beihang University in Beijing, described the latest Xinhua commentary as tentative and not Beijing’s final decision.

“The seriousness of the situation has not reached the level that requires direct military intervention by the central government,” he said. “The [Hong Kong] government has many other means that have not been used, such as declaring martial law. We also haven’t seen Hong Kong courts’ sentences for people on riot charges.

“When the rights [of the Hong Kong government] have been fully exercised but it still can’t stop the riots, the central government will take actions. The final decision to intervene also needs a resolution from the Standing Committee of the National People’s Congress to authorise it.”
 

manqiangrexue

Brigadier
According to my girlfriend, several local gangs can no longer tolerate the riots and have beaten up quite a few rioters who immediately ran away and called the police. The police did not arrive on time and now the rioters are accusing the police of failing to protect them. You can't make this up. I used to believe what Josh Luo said, that they were willing to die for their cause simply because they seemed crazy and brain-washed enough; but now I don't believe it. Not only do they run away when the police defend themselves with guns, they run from gangs with sticks, gangs that they far outnumber. These are the actions of cowards who are only willing to fight when they know the other side is obligated to not harm them. They will not die for their cause; they have shown on every occasion that their self-preservation is very much intact.

I imagine that the people of Hong Kong are getting more and more fed up but I am seeing this change personally as at the start of the conflict, my girlfriend called them protesters, not rioters, for which I corrected her profusely. Midway, she said she wished the PLA would come sort them out and save Hong Kong with non-lethal force, arresting the hidden ring leaders because she says most of the people are just confused and stupid. Now, she's cheering for the gangs. I said, "I would love to see them defeated forcefully but China's enemies would love to see Chinese people kill Chinese people," to which she responded with a reptilian coldness, "Bad people need to die." LOLOL We've essentially reversed roles :confused:
 
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ZeEa5KPul

Colonel
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Collaborators like these who openly want to sell out this fellow countrymen and government to hostile foreign forces cannot be allowed to gain any positions of power for them to better carry out their perverted and poisonous ideology.
You don't collaborate against a powerful government, much less the world's most powerful and effective government. Damn, they're dumb!

"Bad people need to die." LOLOL We've essentially reversed roles :confused:
Bruh, she's a keeper.
 

solarz

Brigadier
According to my girlfriend, several local gangs can no longer tolerate the riots and have beaten up quite a few rioters who immediately ran away and called the police. The police did not arrive on time and now the rioters are accusing the police of failing to protect them. You can't make this up. I used to believe what Josh Luo said, that they were willing to die for their cause simply because they seemed crazy and brain-washed enough; but now I don't believe it. Not only do they run away when the police defend themselves with guns, they run from gangs with sticks, gangs that they far outnumber. These are the actions of cowards who are only willing to fight when they know the other side is obligated to not harm them. They will not die for their cause; they have shown on every occasion that their self-preservation is very much intact.

I imagine that the people of Hong Kong are getting more and more fed up but I am seeing this change personally as at the start of the conflict, my girlfriend called them protesters, not rioters, for which I corrected her profusely. Midway, she said she wished the PLA would come sort them out and save Hong Kong with non-lethal force, arresting the hidden ring leaders because she says most of the people are just confused and stupid. Now, she's cheering for the gangs. I said, "I would love to see them defeated forcefully but China's enemies would love to see Chinese people kill Chinese people," to which she responded with a reptilian coldness, "Bad people need to die." LOLOL We've essentially reversed roles :confused:

I've a feeling that HK will degenerate into civil conflict sooner or later if this keeps up.
 

Gatekeeper

Brigadier
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If that happens, the result will likely be the dissolution of the one state two systems for full integration into the PRC. One thing that's not possible is a result of independence.

This is where I just don't understand the rioters (I stopped calling them "pro-democracy demonstrators" which the MSM still holding on to. Watching CNN just now, and they still give it some legitimacy by calling them that. Gee).

The very ideal of "independence" is so out there, it's like they are living in an alternate universe! Where in god's earth do they ever think that's even a remotely obtainable goal!

Hell, if they ever manages to get someting appraching that, Even I will upstick at my age and return to Hong Kong to fight them till my last breath!
 

taxiya

Brigadier
Registered Member
These are scenes that will be censored by the western MSM, even social media is being zealous in purging such dangerous content from their networks.

Notice how all the pictures that accompany western MSM accounts are always exclusively or overwhelmingly of police in some ‘aggressive’ looking moments, whereas you will be hard pressed to find any images of rioters in the act of attacking police or civilians.

Western correspondents on the ground cannot escape seeing the reality, yet their reporting still always follow the party line, meaning they are active participants in propaganda and riot instigation. When they pull the same politically motivated BS in places like Gaza, the Israelis answer with sniper fire aimed at the gaps in their body armour. And China is the ‘oppressive tyranny’. :rolleyes:

Beijing is playing the long game. They know that the longer this goes on, the more the silent majority will turn against the rioters.

Once what little popular support they currently have evaporates, these thugs will need to give up or ramp up their violence. If they do the later and cross certain red lines like killing police officers, Beijing will come down on them like a ton of bricks, and the majority of HK will cheer them on as they do it.

Beyond any direct custodial punishment, China should also compile a database of violence rioters and make sure they are blacklisted at every Chinese company and companies that does business with China on national security grounds.

Collaborators like these who openly want to sell out this fellow countrymen and government to hostile foreign forces cannot be allowed to gain any positions of power for them to better carry out their perverted and poisonous ideology.
The ongoing censorship by western MSM regarding Hong Kong riot reminds me of Ürümchi riot in 2009 when BBC and CNN etc. cut out the original photos rioters throwing stones at the police but leaving the police in gears in the photos. In 2008 Lhasa riot they also labelled (The Guardians) Nepalese police rounding up Tibetan protesters in Kathmandu as PAP. The worst was that these MSM pointed a Han victim killed by rioters in Ürümchi as "Uyghur victim" killed by police.
 
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