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[antiterror13]

The US targeted the buying offices of the PLA and the individuals within. Sanctions meaning no US company is allowed to deal with them and the individuals herewith, and assets in the US owned by these individuals are frozen. It seems pointless, since I would doubt these PLA bureaucrats having properties in the US, unless they were corrupt and stashing things away. The idea of sanctions is more like aimed to deter other countries from buying Russian arms, which is useless as India appears to have inked with Russia an S-400 deal.

if it is the case, why China is so upset then?

 

[Jura The idiot]

I'm curious, what is the military sanctions that US did to China?

if you want, you may read what I found out Sep 22, 2018

I took a brief look, and:

"SENIOR ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL ONE:

... In this case, the sanctions that are being imposed upon EDD – and I would certainly turn to – I believe it’s Senior Official Number Three to correct or fill in anything that I get wrong here – but we are imposing sanctions on EDD – that is to say, the Chinese entity, Chinese company – a number of these things, although not all of them and there are indeed some carve-outs and waivers. We are denying U.S. export licenses to EDD. We are denying – or, in fact, we are imposing a prohibition upon foreign exchange transactions under U.S. jurisdiction; also imposing a prohibition on transactions with the U.S. financial system. We are blocking all property or interests in property within the U.S. – within U.S. jurisdiction. And we are imposing sanctions on an EDD principal executive officer. That’s the fellow, Mr. Li Shangfu, who we mentioned before. And these sanctions include a prohibition on foreign exchange transactions under U.S. jurisdiction, a prohibition on transactions with the U.S. financial system, and blocking of all property or interests Mr. Li’s – in property within the U.S. jurisdiction, as well as a visa ban.

OFAC has also placed both EDD and Mr. Li on its SDN list, and as a result of that in itself, all property and interests in property within the U.S. jurisdiction are being blocked and U.S. persons are from here forth generally going to be prohibited from transacting with them.

..." etc. inside Previewing Sanctions Under Section 231 of the Countering America's Adversaries Through Sanctions Act of 2017 (CAATSA)

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"EDD" and that manager above are inside Sanctions Under Section 231 of the Countering America's Adversaries Through Sanctions Act of 2017 (CAATSA)

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"Second, the Secretary of State, in consultation with the Secretary of the Treasury, has imposed sanctions pursuant to section 231 of CAATSA on the Chinese entity Equipment Development Department (EDD) and its director, Li Shangfu, for engaging in significant transactions with Rosoboronexport, Russia’s main arms export entity, which is on the LSP."

in short, "military sanctions" of September 20 were directed against one company and one individual

 

[Dfangsaur]

if it is the case, why China is so upset then?

I wouldn't say they are really all that"upset", but a secondary sanction (sanction the party dealing with a sanctioned) like this is considered a violation of sovereignty, so of course they will have to respond somehow.

 

[taxiya]

if it is the case, why China is so upset then?

Because Trump extended US domestic law to act conducted by Chinese organization and individual within Chinese territory in relation to Russia. It is called "long arm jurisdiction", a violation of China's sovereignty. Even if it has no practical impact, it is still intolerable by any government.

 

[Jura The idiot]

now noticed
Chinese warship in 'unsafe' encounter with US destroyer, amid rising US-China tensions

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A US Navy ship had an "unsafe" interaction with a Chinese warship Sunday while the US vessel was conducting a freedom of navigation operation near the disputed Spratly Islands in the South China Sea, causing the US ship to maneuver "to prevent a collision," according to US defense officials.
"A (People's Republic of China) Luyang destroyer approached USS Decatur in an unsafe and unprofessional maneuver in the vicinity of Gaven Reef in the South China Sea," Capt. Charles Brown, a spokesman for US Pacific Fleet, told CNN in a statement confirming the incident.
Brown said the Chinese warship "conducted a series of increasingly aggressive maneuvers accompanied by warnings for the Decatur to depart the area."
He added that the Chinese destroyer "approached within 45 yards" of the front of the US ship, adding that the Decatur "maneuvered to prevent a collision."
"Our forces will continue to fly, sail and operate anywhere international law allows," he said.
This incident comes amid heightened US-China tensions over a broad range of issues. Chinese ships often shadow US vessels during freedom of navigation operations but those interactions are usually considered safe.
CNN reported Sunday the

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within 12 nautical miles of Gaven and Johnson reefs in the Spratly Islands as part of what the US Navy calls freedom of navigation operations, which are meant to enforce the right of free passage in international waters.
While the Navy conducts such freedom of navigation operations all over the world, China is particularly sensitive about the operations when they come near areas where the Chinese government has built islands and established military facilities on disputed maritime features.

 

[Lethe]

Because Trump extended US domestic law to act conducted by Chinese organization and individual within Chinese territory in relation to Russia. It is called "long arm jurisdiction", a violation of China's sovereignty. Even if it has no practical impact, it is still intolerable by any government.

China needs to start imposing reciprocal sanctions targeting e.g. companies that do business in China that are associated with individuals (even just shareholders) responsible for the US legislations.

EDIT: Wrong thread for this discussion.

 

[Jura The idiot]

Yesterday at 7:48 PM

now noticed
Chinese warship in 'unsafe' encounter with US destroyer, amid rising US-China tensions

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and now noticed the tweet

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China firmly opposes a US warship's entry into the waters around China's islands and reefs in the

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, Defense Ministry spokesman said on Tuesday, in response to a US guided missile destroyer arbitrarily entering waters in the South China Sea on Sept 30

 

[asif iqbal]

It’s 12 miles from sovereign territory

The islands are not recognised by US so choses to close within less than 12 miles

China obviously wants it to maintain 12 miles

US want to send a message to country’s in surrounding area it can still excercise freedom of navigation in a contested area otherwise it will effect foreign policy

Accident waiting to happen

 

[SinoSoldier]

It’s 12 miles from sovereign claimed territory

There, fixed it for you.

 

[chlosy]

It’s 12 miles from sovereign territory

The islands are not recognised by US so choses to close within less than 12 miles

China obviously wants it to maintain 12 miles

US want to send a message to country’s in surrounding area it can still excercise freedom of navigation in a contested area otherwise it will effect foreign policy

Accident waiting to happen

Careful, The American destroyers might hit fishing vessels.