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You know it is rather ridiculous why they have not gone about and paint the number CV-17 on the hull already. It's not like they are going to put another layer of paint on it again, and it is clear that she will be the first in line for commissioning.
 
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Why is it ridiculous? The CV-XX should be assigned by the PLAN. But it is not yet commissioned.
But it is already launched, and other navies like the USN place pennant numbers for ships right during the construction progress. Now of course USN is not the PLAN, but it does save them some time to just paint the number right on along side all the fitting out effort. Instead of painting the number on at a later date.
 
You know it is rather ridiculous why they have not gone about and paint the number CV-17 on the hull already. It's not like they are going to put another layer of paint on it again, and it is clear that she will be the first in line for commissioning.
why on Earth should the Chinese follow what ANY other Navy Of The World does?!

by the way you might want to check
Aircraft Carriers III 59 minutes ago
Wednesday at 9:03 PM

procedure to follow, no?
 
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why on Earth should the Chinese follow what ANY other Navy Of The World does?!

by the way you might want to check
Aircraft Carriers III 59 minutes ago
plus Wednesday at 9:03 PM
Well the one reason I can give that in this instance it would a more practical and time saving move : Might as well complete all the exterior deco in one move with all the scaffolding up, than to re-erect them at a later date just to put in that one detail.
You seem to be thinking that I am suggesting that China should emulate the USN hook, line and sinker. Well I am not suggesting that, but I do see a plus in taking hints at practical procedure shortening.
If the Chinese was to be so proud as to refuse to swallow their own pride in specific instances, they would have never arrived at this instance. Do we really have to go back on on how existing naval trends are helping China to establish their own carrier ops and navy culture ?
 

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Well the one reason I can give that in this instance it would a more practical and time saving move : Might as well complete all the exterior deco in one move with all the scaffolding up, than to re-erect them at a later date just to put in that one detail.
You seem to be thinking that I am suggesting that China should emulate the USN hook, line and sinker. Well I am not suggesting that, but I do see a plus in taking hints at practical procedure shortening.
Why do you care about something so inane? It's literally a half-hour paint job. Who the hell cares when they choose to apply it?
 
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Why do you care about something so inane? It's literally a half-hour paint job. Who the hell cares when they choose to apply it?
Well I care for one, and its my choice to point it out.And I have given my reasons to do so. And in all honesty, painting a giant size "CV-17" on the side on the hull is not going to be a "half hour job" as you have suggested.
 

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Well I don't doubt Daliang's capability, but from PR's point of view this is very badly managed, I'm sure lots of people feel the same way as I do.

A couple weeks back there was high anticipation and people were very excited, some stayed up late. Just look at the many pages in cjdby thread. But after crying wolf again and again, when the real thing come, people already have psychological fatigue.

Plus the weather is not good...
PLA is not Hollywood making a big budget war film. Neither is PLA a PR organization.;)
 

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If the Chinese was to be so proud as to refuse to swallow their own pride in specific instances, they would have never arrived at this instance. Do we really have to go back on on how existing naval trends are helping China to establish their own carrier ops and navy culture ?

The Chinese are very practical. If you look at the Liaoning deck staff, it is very clear that the PLAN follows the USN carrier deck ope to the dot. Even the color scheme is the exact same as the USN.

They have no problem emulating other navies with much more experience in the carrier operations.

Part of being proud and being confident is to admit your weakness and to learn from the best. And the Chinese have been doing that openly for many years.

Also keep in mind that being humble does not mean that they should emulate others 100%. And the Chinese have shown that, in many cases, they make changes based on their unique needs, situations and strategic plans while they learn from others.

Therefore, when you see something different, give them some benefit of the doubt. Maybe, just maybe, they are doing it differently because they have a reason for that.

Also, they have been building warships for a long long time. And the scale of their operations is humongous. That means they are very experienced with the whole process. They must have a reason for doing something as mundane as painting the pennant number differently.
 
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