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Hendrik_2000

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China Will Lead an Electric Car Future, Ford’s Chairman Says
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DEC. 5, 2017

China now appears to be behind that wheel. The government has taken a major role in electric car development and is pushing to dominate the market. Beijing hopes the push will add to its technological know-how, help address its pernicious pollution problems and curb its dependence on oil imports from politically volatile countries.

To achieve this, China is offering global automakers enticing financial carrots and threatening them with weighty regulatory sticks. State-controlled automakers have begun putting massive investments into electric car production. Meanwhile, Beijing has mandated that automakers must start selling large numbers of electric cars and plug-in hybrid cars or risk losing their right to sell gasoline-powered cars in China, now the world’s largest auto market.

“Certainly having the full weight and power of the Chinese government behind it gave them a pretty good head start,” said James Chao, a China automotive analyst at IHS Markit.

China is already the world’s dominant producer not just of electric motors but of practically all their components. Chinese companies even mine most of the valuable minerals, called rare earth metals, that go into the tiny magnets often used to make many of the motors.

Volkswagen has said that together with its Chinese partners it would
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to introduce 25 models of electric cars in the Chinese market between 2020 and 2025. VW already planned to bring 15 electric models to the country by 2020.
 

kwaigonegin

Colonel
This video is much better presentation than the previous 2 slick CGTN presentation

Impressive. Not so much from a tech standpoint but from a bureaucracy standpoint or the lack of it in this case. While I am in NO WAY a fan of authoritarian forms of government but in some ways they are much more efficient and effective in implementing projects big or small.

The US was able to successfully balance such things even with a democratic form of government in the 40,50s,60 etc with big projects like all the NASA programs, the interstate systems etc but no more. Our DOD/Pentagon etc was also much more efficient in terms of ROI and being much more transparent and accountable to the tax payers while keeping relevant national security and secrets secret. They were able to do that effectively

Nowadays, to build even a single mile of rail line would take years and billions tied up in all forms of bureaucracy, red tape and other interests and our military certainly do not get the same bang for buck as our fathers did before. Everyone just wants to enrich their own personal coffers at the expense of what is right for the pride and good of the country.
 

kwaigonegin

Colonel
Impressive. Not so much from a tech standpoint but from a bureaucracy standpoint or the lack of it in this case. While I am in NO WAY a fan of authoritarian forms of government but in some ways they are much more efficient and effective in implementing projects big or small.

The US was able to successfully balance such things even with a democratic form of government in the 40,50s,60 etc with big projects like all the NASA programs, the interstate systems etc but no more. Our DOD/Pentagon etc was also much more efficient in terms of ROI and being much more transparent and accountable to the tax payers while keeping relevant national security and secrets secret. They were able to do that effectively

Nowadays, to build even a single mile of rail line would take years and billions tied up in all forms of bureaucracy, red tape and other interests and our military certainly do not get the same bang for buck as our fathers did before. Everyone just wants to enrich their own personal coffers at the expense of what is right for the pride and good of the country.

Damn! I just realized I sounded like a commie LOL! ... #$%
 

solarz

Brigadier
Impressive. Not so much from a tech standpoint but from a bureaucracy standpoint or the lack of it in this case. While I am in NO WAY a fan of authoritarian forms of government but in some ways they are much more efficient and effective in implementing projects big or small.

The US was able to successfully balance such things even with a democratic form of government in the 40,50s,60 etc with big projects like all the NASA programs, the interstate systems etc but no more. Our DOD/Pentagon etc was also much more efficient in terms of ROI and being much more transparent and accountable to the tax payers while keeping relevant national security and secrets secret. They were able to do that effectively

Nowadays, to build even a single mile of rail line would take years and billions tied up in all forms of bureaucracy, red tape and other interests and our military certainly do not get the same bang for buck as our fathers did before. Everyone just wants to enrich their own personal coffers at the expense of what is right for the pride and good of the country.

Actually, China has a bigger bureaucracy and more red tape than the US can ever dream of. Anyone who tried to do business, or even buy real estate, in China could tell you this.

As you noted, the US was able to complete big projects back in the 50's and 60's. The issue is not bureaucracy, it is Vision. America had Vision back then.
 

Equation

Lieutenant General
Actually, China has a bigger bureaucracy and more red tape than the US can ever dream of. Anyone who tried to do business, or even buy real estate, in China could tell you this.

As you noted, the US was able to complete big projects back in the 50's and 60's. The issue is not bureaucracy, it is Vision. America had Vision back then.
That's true in a business and/or trade transaction, but as far as large infrastructure and civil projects, I say it's easier for China to make it a reality than say in the US.
 
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