manqiangrexue
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Can you provide a source for your figure of 36 tons full? I didn't realize that was declassified.The bird do 36 t fulli don't think capable SC with engine of only 14 t or very limited
J-20 5th Gen Fighter Thread VI
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Firstly we know perfectly you only here for propaganda... with some others not objective damage !Can you provide a source for your figure of 36 tons full? I didn't realize that was declassified.
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Max takeoff weight: 36,288 kg (80,001 lb) upper estimate
Even in Mandarin
最大起飛重量
36,288公斤（36.288公噸；80,001英磅）
So you get wrong and BTW i have see it
https://www.sinodefenceforum.com/banned-warned-members-list.t54/page-63#post-474114
You don' t have lessons to do to me...
manqiangrexue
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LOL Hey, man let me shorten your post for you:
My "source" for classified military information is wikipedia.
That's all you had to say and let others judge, as long as you can put it in readable English. LOL Bringing up unrelated stories and personal attacks because even you are frustrated that your source makes no sense isn't gonna help your credibility.
PS. The figure you cited was for MTOW, which is NOT the weight of the aircraft in normal operational configuration nor necessarily even in heavily loaded configuration. It means how much weight the aircraft could POSSIBLY take off with (margin of safety included). A very light aircraft can have a very high MTOW if it was designed with a lot of lift and powerful engines. So basically, you cited the wrong part of a non-credible source = good job LOL
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manqiangrexue
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Better question is: why do you post wrong information from an unreliable source, then make personal attacks on others in order to defend it, all the while trying to draw conclusions on supercruise from your wrong information?
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You and other reported... i have only mentionned a mass... to Air Force Brat in more which is a Gentleman Honnest not than others...
manqiangrexue made a legit and reasonable comment asking for the source of your claim. You just had to include a zinger about propaganda when answering.
Forbin, have you ever thought to look at *where* the information you're citing comes from? Wikipedia is a secondary source. What was the primary source?
Your too late that was the first thing to ask before being rude for rest ask to Pékin... stop boring me...
So...because you think someone is rude to you you feel you're justified in exercising poor diligence and citing inaccurate (probably made up) information? How old are you?
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