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Iron Man

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Importantly, the addition "CV-" does not fit at all to Chinese aircraft carriers. For example, to think about it, we do not call R08 Queen Elizabeth "CV-8".
The "CV-" prefix is well-known to not be official but has been used as a matter of convenience and clarity. We could just say "16" and "17" but some people would have no idea what we're talking about. If you add "CV" or "CVN" all of a sudden it becomes obvious what we're referring to.
 

Quickie

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useful:

"Actually the numbers 001, 002, 003... are internal project codes, not "Type" as in Type 052D.

Imo, the code for the aircraft carrier itself will be XX-16, XX-17... with the XX yet to be confirmed. It could be CV or something else or nothing at all?
 

Hendrik_2000

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From global times now they are now talking about sea test(builder trial) in fall
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Homegrown aircraft carrier ahead of schedule
By Deng Xiaoci and Yang Sheng Source:Global Times Published: 2017/8/22 23:28:39
Last stage to turn over warship to PLA navy

China's first homegrown aircraft carrier is very likely to start its first sea trials in autumn, as its manufacturer announced that it will present key achievements as a tribute to the 19th National Congress of the Communist Party of China (CPC).

The Dalian Shipbuilding Industry Corp (DSIC) of the China Shipbuilding Industry Corporation (CSIC), the manufacturer of the Type 001A, posted details of a meeting on its website on August 18.

Hu Wenming, the head and Party chief of the CSIC who visited the DSIC in Dalian, northeastern China's Liaoning Province, praised the DSIC's work, saying the "key project" team has completed tasks ahead of schedule, according to the DSIC. Although the website didn't mention the aircraft carrier, the photo shows that the meeting is of "the Party Committee Working Conference of 002 Aircraft Carrier" (002 is the code of the project).

"The DSIC will greet the 19th CPC National Congress by delivering key achievements on a special product in this special time," said DSIC Chairman Liu Zheng, during a DSIC meeting on August 15 in Dalian, according to the company's website.

Liu said all personnel working on the key project led by the CSIC will stick to the directions of
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, the General Secretary of the CPC Central Committee, to provide world-class naval equipment for a world-leading navy.

The Type 001A is located in the DSIC's shipyard in Liaoning Province.

The "special time" refers to the 19th CPC National Congress, which marks the opening of a new phase of China's reforms. And the enhancement of the People's Liberation Army (PLA) navy's combat capabilities is an important part of the country's military reforms, Li Jie, a Beijing-based naval expert, told the Global Times on Tuesday.

Chinese experts believe the project's next achievement will most likely be the sea trials phase.

Zhang Ye, a research fellow at the PLA Naval Research Institute, told the Global Times that if the Type 001A can start its sea trials before the event, which is the last stage prior to turning the warship over to the navy, it would mark a huge step forward in China's development of a stronger navy.

China has successfully tested the Type 001A's power system and the carrier will undergo a mooring test in September ahead of schedule, meaning that the ship's power system is all set, and Zhang said he believed part of the mooring test has already started even during the power test, so the mooring test period could be shorter than expected.

More comprehensive test

The schedule for the sea trials will depend on how long the mooring test takes, Zhang noted.

The sea trials will include an even more comprehensive performance test, which would cover the propelling and communications systems under different maritime conditions, which would usually take two years, Zhang said. He added the trials would not be limited to a specific weather condition.

"The gap between the launch and sea trials of an aircraft carrier can take years. Progress depends on many factors, including funding, technological obstacles and the needs of clients. A new class of vessel normally requires more time, just like the Type 002 which is currently under construction in Shanghai, and will be very different from the Type 001 and 001A, but much more advanced," said Song Zhongping, a military expert who served in the Rocket Force.

"The Type 001A is an improved version of the Type 001 Liaoning, so the similarity and experience can largely speed things up," Song said.

China has started testing the power system of its first domestically-built aircraft carrier, and hopes to begin a mooring test in September ahead of schedule, Hu Wenming, the CSIC Chairman who has chaired the research and development of the Type 001A, was quoted as saying on a China Central Television report. The Type 001A was launched in Dalian on April 26.
 
does it mean mooring trials maybe?
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Le 2ème porte-avions chinois semble avoir démarré certains essais à quai, comme annoncé précédemment :
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The 2nd Chinese aircraft carrier seems to have started some tests to dock, as announced previously:
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taxiya

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The "CV-" prefix is well-known to not be official but has been used as a matter of convenience and clarity. We could just say "16" and "17" but some people would have no idea what we're talking about. If you add "CV" or "CVN" all of a sudden it becomes obvious what we're referring to.
Forgive me if I sound nip picking, but we have 052C/D ships called "16x" and "17x", instead of DDG-16x and DDG-17x, without any confusion? I think people who are familiar with the matter and regular visitors of this site won't get themselves confused. The ones who do get confused by "16" may confuse CV-16 as USS CV-16 with PLAN CV-16.;)
 

taxiya

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There exists a distinct possibility then that "001" is also not a type designation and we have no real idea what the PLAN's internal type designation for CV-16 really is.
I agree, so far all these 00x numbers look to me like one time vessel numbers, not types.
 

Intrepid

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The text "工程" actually means Program which is very close to Project, but not Type "号".

We can name it
  • Type 002 (Possible confusion with the former designations Type 001A and Type 002)
  • Project 002 (Confusion with projects 707 and 048 possible)
  • Program 002 ("Program" for a single ship sounds strange)
  • Vessel 002 (I like it, but who knows what tomorrow is :))
 

Iron Man

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Forgive me if I sound nip picking, but we have 052C/D ships called "16x" and "17x", instead of DDG-16x and DDG-17x, without any confusion? I think people who are familiar with the matter and regular visitors of this site won't get themselves confused. The ones who do get confused by "16" may confuse CV-16 as USS CV-16 with PLAN CV-16.;)
Call it a matter of consensus then, since everybody seems to be using CV-16 and CV-17 instead of 16 and 17. What I would actually like to do is to refer to them by what the PLAN calls them, but since we have no idea what that is, it's a total crap-shoot.
 
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