Aircraft Carriers III

Jeff Head

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I have for Sea King Asac7 150 km/5 m2 with Searchwater 2000
in nmi do 80 so clear increase ( remains ofc far of E-2D radar which have a range double ! ) for Crowsnest radar
Thanks Forbin, that is GREAT info.

I wonder what they could get out of an AEW V-22?

I hope we find out. Some where in between the two I suspect, maybe further towards the high end.
 

cockneyjock1974

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Thanks Forbin, that is GREAT info.

I wonder what they could get out of an AEW V-22?

I hope we find out. Some where in between the two I suspect, maybe further towards the high end.

According to the same tweet Forbin posted, an V22 would give us only an extra 40 miles radar coverage! Don't know if it's true or not!!!
 
that's something: no AShMs in the near future, no fixed-winged aircraft yet, but
Britain's new aircraft carriers to test Beijing in South China Sea

27 July 2017
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“One of the first things we will do with the two new colossal aircraft carriers that we have just built is send them on a freedom of navigation operation to this area,” Johnson said in Sydney on Thursday, “to vindicate our belief in the rules-based international system and in the freedom of navigation through those waterways which are absolutely vital for world trade.”


does he know that the Royal BRUNEI Navy has AShMs?!
(I know that, because I watched their Exocets being test-fired during the SINKEX at 2014 RIMPAC)
 

thecheeto

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Thanks Forbin, that is GREAT info.

I wonder what they could get out of an AEW V-22?

I hope we find out. Some where in between the two I suspect, maybe further towards the high end.
. It looks like the Sea king has a service Service Ceiling of 14,700 feet (4,410 meters) and the V-22 24,000 feet (7,315 meter). E-2 for comparison looks like 34,700 ft (10,576 meters).

Being pressurized would likely limit the V-22s effectiveness as an AWAC.
 
Today at 8:12 AM
Tuesday at 8:46 PM
ignored, so I try once more:
"are there some separate programs for the AAG, EMALS, DBR, AWEs ... to make them actually work on board?"
EMALS Catapult Fixed But Won’t Reach Ford Until 2019
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OK just to finish here, I spent about ten minutes on searching just for EMALS funding, found about:

"The budget requests $223 million in FY 2017 for integration efforts, test planning and support,
and funds to continue System Development and Demonstration (SDD) and developmental testing on Advanced Arresting Gear (AAG) and the Electromagnetic Aircraft Launch System (EMALS)."

plus the program

4004:EMALS

"(4004) - Development of an advanced technology aircraft launch system in support of the CVN 78 Class design and construction schedule. The Electro Magnetic Aircraft Launch System (EMALS) will replace the current steam catapult on CVN 78 Class ships. EMALS provides better control of applied forces, both peak and transient dynamic, improved reliability and maintainability, increased operational availability and reduced operator and maintainer workload"
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I don't bother with posting links to the above, just answer my own question (LOL) with: I think so.
 
Yesterday at 8:12 AM
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EMALS Catapult Fixed But Won’t Reach Ford Until 2019
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related:
“There is no urgency to apply the fix, as shipboard launches of F/A-18s with [external fuel tanks] will not be conducted until 2019, following CVN-78’s Post Shakedown Availability,” Koon said.:
EMALS Fix Finalized To Reduce Stress Put On Heaviest Airplanes During Ford-Class Carrier Launch
The Navy completed testing on a software fix for its Electromagnetic Aircraft Launch System (EMALS) that will allow the heaviest planes to take off with less stress to the airframe, Naval Air Systems Command (NAVAIR) announced this week.

The EMALS team found during April 2014 testing that airplanes carrying full 480-gallon wing-mounted external fuel tanks were experiencing a great amount of stress on the airframe.

“During certain launches with full wing-mounted external fuel tanks, the system was exceeding acceptable load levels within the wings of the aircraft during the initial release of the launch sequence. … This presented a risk to the fatigue life of the aircraft. It was not a risk to the ship or to the EMALS system,” NAVAIR spokesman Rob Koon told USNI News.
“If this had gone unaddressed, it would have limited the F/A-18E/F from performing certain missions aboard CVN-78, and impacted the ship’s ability to conduct its planned Operational Test schedule.”

EMALS and the Advanced Arresting Gear system, both of which are being fielded for the first time on the newly commissioned USS Gerald R. Ford (CVN-78), fine-tune the forces they put on the airplanes taking off or landing based on their weight and size, to most efficiently launch and recover the planes without putting undue stress on the airframes. This is meant to reduce maintenance on the airplanes and extend their service lives.

The software fix will now allow EMALS to handle the upper limit of its workload – the heaviest planes, Super Hornets and EA-18G Growlers with full external fuel tanks – without exceeding stress limits on the airplanes. Koon said that the problem did not hinder any testing on EMALS so far – all airplanes launched successfully – but rather the concern was the wellbeing of the airplanes over time.

“We were confident since the day that the issue was uncovered that it was solvable,” George Sulich, EMALS integrated program team lead, said in a NAVAIR news release.
“The beauty of the system is that issues such as these can be accomplished with software updates instead of major hardware changes to machinery.”

The fix’s design, development, laboratory testing and dead-load testing – which uses sleds that are weighted to represent various aircraft types – were all completed in 2015.

Along with other software fixes that had been made to EMALS, this fix was loaded onto the system at a test site at Joint Base McGuire-Dix-Lakehurst, N.J. Beginning in April of this year, 152 dead-load launches were conducted, and then just recently the EMALS team conducted final tests with real aircraft carrying instruments to measure the forces being put of the airframes.

The software fix will be uploaded to the EMALS aboard Ford in 2019, when the ship goes in for its post-shakedown availability. That shipyard availability is the first opportunity to update the EMALS software without disrupting ship operations, Koon said, and presents no risk to the ship or any airplanes by waiting.

“There is no urgency to apply the fix, as shipboard launches of F/A-18s with [external fuel tanks] will not be conducted until 2019, following CVN-78’s Post Shakedown Availability,” Koon said.
“There will be no impact because the aircraft launched prior to that time will not have [external fuel tanks]. [Post-shakedown availability] is the next availability for incorporating the software updates aboard CVN-78 without disrupting its upcoming test schedule.”
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now I watched VIDEO: USS Gerald R. Ford Conducts First Arrested Landing, Catapult Launch
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Six days after commissioning, the crew of USS Gerald R. Ford (CVN-78) launched and recovered their first aircraft from carrier’s flight deck, according to a statement from the service.

The recovery of the F/A-18F Super Hornet from the Navy’s Air Test and Evaluation Squadron VX- 23 occurred at 3:10 P.M. EST off the coast of Virginia.

Lt. Cmdr. Jamie “Coach” Struck’s Super Hornet hit the number two wire on the Advanced Arresting Gear systems and then launched a little more than an hour later using the ship’s electromagnetic launch system (EMALS).

The test came as a surprise to many naval observers who expected the first arrested landing on Ford to come sometime next week.

“AAG and EMALS have been successfully tested ashore at Lakehurst, New Jersey, but this is the first shipboard recovery and launch of a fleet fixed wing aircraft,” said Capt. Rick McCormack, Ford’s commanding officer, said in a statement.
“My team has worked closely with industry, Naval Air Systems Command (NAVAIR), and the flight test community.”

The following is the complete July 28, 2017 statement from the service on the recovery and launch tests.

USS GERALD R. FORD COMPLETES FIRST ARRESTED LANDING AND LAUNCH

Less than one week after Pres. Donald J. Trump commissioned the U.S. Navy’s newest aircraft carrier, USS Gerald R. Ford (CVN 78) launched and recovered its first fixed-wing aircraft July 28, 2017off the coast of Virginia. The first arrested landing, or “trap”, occurred at 3:10 PM (EST) and the first catapult launch happened at 4:37 PM (EST).

Lt. Cmdr. Jamie Struck of Tallmedge, Ohio piloted the F/A-18F Superhornet from Air Test and Evaluation Squadron (VX) 23 based at Patuxent River, Maryland.

The Superhornet caught the number 2 arresting wire of Ford’s advanced arresting gear (AAG) system, and was launched from catapult 1 using the electromagnetic launch system (EMALS).

“Today, USS Gerald R. Ford made history with the successful landing and launching of aircraft from VX-23 using the AAG and EMALS,” said Adm. Phil Davidson, commander, U.S. Fleet Forces. “Great work by the Ford team and all the engineers who have worked hard to get the ship ready for this milestone.”

“AAG and EMALS have been successfully tested ashore at Lakehurst, New Jersey, but this is the first shipboard recovery and launch of a fleet fixed wing aircraft,” said Capt. Rick McCormack, Ford’s commanding officer.
“My team has worked closely with industry, Naval Air Systems Command (NAVAIR), and the flight test community to make this historic event in Naval aviation happen. I am very proud of my crew.”
The successful test comes days after the Navy said it had worked through a software issue with the EMALS system and after years of delays in both the General Atomics-built systems. Design problems with the AAG pushed the testing program back two years before the contractor and the Navy could find an acceptable fix.

“I could not be more proud of the men and women who, for the better part of the last two decades, have worked to bring these new technologies to the fleet,” said Capt. Stephen Tedford, program manager, said in a statement.
“Their perseverance and dedication to service have made this day possible.”

The software-controlled AAG is a modular, integrated system that consists of energy absorbers, power conditioning equipment and digital controls, with architecture that provides built-in test and diagnostics, resulting in lower maintenance and manpower requirements. AAG is designed to provide higher reliability and safety margins, as well as to allow for the arrestment of a greater range of aircraft and reduce the fatigue impact load to the aircraft.

The mission and function of EMALS remains the same as the traditional steam catapult; however, it employs entirely different technologies. It delivers necessary higher-launch energy capacity, improvements in system maintenance, increased reliability and efficiency, and more accurate end-speed control and smooth acceleration. EMALS is designed to expand the operational capability of the Navy’s future carriers to include all current and future planned carrier aircraft – from lightweight unmanned aircraft to heavy strike fighters.

“I could not be more proud of the men and women who, for the better part of the last two decades, have worked to bring these new technologies to the fleet,” said Capt. Stephen Tedford, program manager. “Their perseverance and dedication to service have made this day possible.”

“My team has worked very hard, together with experts from NAVAIR, Huntington Ingalls Industries, and General Atomics, to test this first-in-class technology,” said Cmdr. Thomas Plott, head of Ford’s air department. “Today is a validation of their dedication and hard work.”
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