Chinese Economics Thread

Blackstone

Brigadier
welll .... @Blackstone put the same corruption level for China and Kenya is a bit surprising and bias that come from you who have been to China and Keya or any African countries

China is the "seller" and Kenya is the "buyer" for that project ... so normally the "buyer" (Kenya) would get/demand a kick back.

There is of course corruption in China .. so in the US as well
Kenya as the "buyer" is a bit misleading, since China financed over 90% of the project. So, if there were kickbacks and/or other forms of corruption, it'd most likely be on both sides.

Agreed corruption goes on in US as well as China and every other nation.
 

Hendrik_2000

Lieutenant General
To attribute every project cost overrun on corruption is quite misleading. The San Francisco bridge cost overrun is not due to corruption but due to the stupidity of the selection committee who veto down the simpler cheaper solution for a more grand design befit a world class city like San Francisco

The original design is a simple bridge on pile But the city father vetoed it down because it doesn't look good so pedestrian Need something more grand
Assasinmace can tell you a bit more

Many project experience cost overrun F35 any one. Or the latest saga of Westinghouse/Toshiba wrong estimate that drove Toshiba a hundred year company close to bankruptcy

Anyway taking a pulse on chinese economy everything look good Chinese economy is now on goldilock path low inflation, improving export, rising consumer spending, robust real estate sector, etc
The CCP mandarin turn out better economy manager than their wallstreet counterpart who run the US economy. Mean while in India we have this
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And in Samurai land we have this
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Early Look: China’s Economy Post-Peak Shows Modest Growth
A still-robust property market and foreign trade are likely to keep growth humming along for now, economists say


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Trade has added some buoyancy to the economy. PHOTO: SIPA ASIA VIA ZUMA
Jun 6, 2017 3:46 pm HKT

After a strong start to the year, China’s economy is slowing at a pace economists say is looking quite moderate.

While an easing of factory inflation, slower industrial output and lower growth in profits are weighing on the economy, a still-robust property market and foreign trade are likely to keep growth humming along for now, economists say.

Following a slowdown in April, business activities, including industrial production, construction and retail, probably stayed steady in May, according to a survey of 11 economists by The Wall Street Journal.


“The big picture is that the economy peaked in the first quarter of 2017,” said Larry Hu, an economist at Macquarie Capital Ltd. “But the slowdown has been quite modest.”

According to the survey, industrial output, a rough proxy for economic growth, was likely up 6.4% in May from a year earlier, slightly off April’s 6.5% pace. Fixed-asset investment outside rural households, a gauge of construction activity, probably rose 9% for the January-May period, a tad faster than January-April’s 8.9%. Retail sales may have climbed 10.8% in May, a tick off April’s 10.9%.

China’s economy grew 6.9% in the first quarter from the same period of last year—the fastest pace in 1 1/2 years—due to government’s stimulus measures.
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as the effects of those pro-growth policies started to wane, setting the stage for continued slowing over subsequent months.

Adding some buoyancy to the economy has been a rebound in trade. Exports in May were likely up 7% from a year earlier, slowing from April’s 8%, the survey of economists showed. Growth in imports likely also slowed, to 8.3% from near 12%, widening the trade surplus to an expected $47.8 billion in May, from $38.05 billion in April.

Exports, a drag on economic growth over the past few years, are shaping up to be a pillar this year, said Jianguang Shen, an economist at Mizuho Securities.


Inflation, however, isn’t delivering the boost it did late last year and early this year. May’s producer-price index, a gauge of prices at the factory gate, is expected to be up 5.5% from a year earlier, slowing from April’s 6.4%, the survey showed. That would be the third straight deceleration from February’s 7.8% peak, and, with slower gains in prices, economists have said industrial output is expected to soften in coming months.

“Easing industrial prices should dampen confidence in certain upstream and midstream industries,” said Zhang Fan, an economist at RHB Group.


The consumer-price index for May was likely up 1.5% from a year earlier, the survey said, accelerating from April’s 1.2%. Elevated nonfood prices, such as for health care and education, continued to outweigh declines in food prices, economists said.

China’s foreign-exchange reserves probably rose for a fourth straight month in May on renewed yuan strength and Beijing’s sustained controls on moving capital offshore, the poll of economists showed. The reserves are tipped to have risen by about $25 billion, to $3.055 trillion at the end of May from $3.030 trillion at end April.

The yuan is up 2.2% against the U.S. dollar this year after dropping 7% last year. Analysts attribute the surge in recent weeks to the central bank’s heavy hand in supporting the yuan.

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relieves the pressure of selling reserves to support the currency, said Larry Hu, an economist at Macquarie Capital Ltd.

—Liyan Qi
 
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Blackstone

Brigadier
Anyway taking a pulse on chinese economy everything look good Chinese economy is now on goldilock path low inflation, improving export, rising consumer spending, robust real estate sector, etc
The CCP mandarin turn out better economy manager than their wallstreet counterpart who run the US economy
Not sure about the Goldilock part of your post, but I agree there are plenty of evidence to show CCP is the most competent government in the world for the last 30 or so years.
 
now I read
China Focus: Beijing acts on population growth
Xinhua| 2017-06-09 23:49:35
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Beijing has made progress in cooperation with its neighbors and will act to restrict population growth.

Beijing officials met with the press on Friday to review progress made over the last three years in the integration of Beijing, Tianjin and Hebei Province.

Liu Bozheng, deputy director of the office overseeing the integration, said Beijing will meet its annual targets of restricting population growth and moving non-capital functions away from the city.

This year, Beijing will continue to relocate wholesale markets, factories, universities and hospitals to suburban areas and Hebei, he said.

In 2016, Beijing's population was 21.7 million, and the number of permanent residents in the six urban districts fell by 3 percent year on year, said Liu.

"The changes are unprecedented. Before, the mode of growth was to congregate resources, but now we must delegate and move out resources to achieve more planned and sustainable development," he said.

From 2013 to 2016, Beijing closed 1,341 general manufacturing and polluting enterprises. This year, 372 manufacturers have already been relocated, 74.4 percent of the annual target.

Manufacturing and agriculture dropped by 72.75 percent and 26.42 percent, while, industries like finance, culture and technology grew as much as 22 percent.

"Industrial restructuring is the key. It is like pealing away the outer layers of a cabbage, and cooking its core, which is of better quality," said Liu, with Beijing Municipal Commission of Development and Reform.

This year, a total of 255 construction projects will get underway in Tongzhou, the subsidiary administrative center.

"We invited some of the world's top designers to build Tongzhou, which covers 155 square kilometers," said Liu.

By the end of this year, several government buildings will be finished and staff be ready to move.

Liu said Beijing will support Xiongan New Area. "Whatever Xiongan needs, Beijing will provide its support. The two wings of Tongzhou and Xiongan will develop in tandem," said Liu.
 

Franklin

Captain
A new copy cat in town.

U.S. Tech Companies Now Copycats of Chinese Peers, Andreessen Horowitz Partner Says
Chinese technology companies have long had a reputation of being copycats of Western peers, but U.S. companies have recently begun to return the favor, said a partner at prominent venture-capital firm Andreessen Horowitz.
China's internet titans such as Tencent Holdings Ltd. are influencing U.S. startups and majors alike, and many Chinese models are being replicated in the U.S., said Connie Chan, a partner at the Silicon Valley venture firm whose investments include Airbnb Inc. and Facebook Inc.
LimeBike, a San Mateo, Calif., upstart backed by Andreessen Horowitz, adapted China's dockless bike-sharing model for U.S. consumers, Ms. Chan said at The Wall Street Journal's D. Live Asia conference Friday. The company's smartphone-activated bicycles, which use designated public spaces for parking instead of docking stations, were first rolled out by Beijing-based Ofo Inc. and Beijing Mobike Technology Co.
Also, Apple Inc. recently added payment services to its iMessage chat service, taking a page from Tencent's playbook, Ms. Chan said.
"I love this reversal of what 'China copycat' can mean," she said. "It no longer just means a Chinese company copying the States, it can mean a U.S. company copying China."
David Su, the founding managing partner at Matrix Partners China, said the next big Chinese technology success story would likely come from companies whose business models leverage micropayments on mobile as well as the software services and security space.
"In the next few years, we will see a lot of innovation on payment on mobile which will drive a lot of consumption and changes in behavior," said Mr. Su, an early investor in Chinese tech giant Baidu Inc. and ride-hailing company Didi Chuxing Technology Co.
Mr. Su said the growth in investments coming from China's three internet majors- Alibaba Group Holding Ltd., Tencent and Baidu--hasn't had an impact on valuations for early-stage venture-capital firms, as the three companies typically take part in later funding rounds, he said.
Still, intense battles often take place there.
"Unfortunately, because of the hyper competition among the big giants, often when one picks a big player, the other side almost compulsively will pick another competitor," Mr. Su said. "It's created almost two blocks of warring camps."

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yes, I read
Spotlight: Chinese economy on right development path under CPC leadership
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As a key meeting of the Communist Party of China (CPC) draws near, the large Asian country it has been leading over the past nearly seven decades is attracting more and more global limelight.

In the economic dimension, observers from across the world agree that under the leadership of the world's largest political party, the world's largest developing country has scored tremendous achievements and is on the right development path toward the future.

Particularly, they point out that since the incumbent CPC leadership took office five years ago, China, now the world's second largest economy, has been pushing for comprehensive reform and has further consolidated the foundation for future development.

REFORM IS MAIN KEYWORD

Reform has been a main keyword of China's economic policy for decades, and in recent years it has been assigned even higher priority.

In late 2013, the CPC set up the Central Leading Group for Deepening Overall Reform, an institution chaired by General Secretary
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-- who is also Chinese president -- and tasked with steering forward China's reform endeavors.

Among various specific policies, the major reform in the economic realm China has been pushing forward with full resolve in recent years is the supply-side structural reform.

Launched in 2015, the effort carries the recognition that China's economic growth model over the last three decades -- mainly driven by investment, exports and consumption -- has played its due role and now needs to be adapted to the new circumstances.

China's supply-side structural reform shifts the focus from demand to the other side of the lever -- supply. It is aimed at five major goals: cutting overcapacity, destocking, deleveraging, lowering costs and improving weak links.

Guo Shengxiang, dean of the Academy of
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Creative Finance, an Australian think tank, said specific measures related to the five major goals have raised equality and efficiency of the Chinese economy, as manifested by the rise of domestic consumption, expansion of the services sector and surge in high-end products.

Alongside the supply-side structural reform, the Chinese government has also rolled out corresponding monetary, financial and fiscal reforms, as well as industrial policies and regional planning.

The reform and related measures, added Guo, have together laid a solid foundation for China to step across the so-called middle-income trap, a situation where a country's economic growth slows after reaching middle-income levels as it loses the original competitiveness.

Guo also highlighted the poverty alleviation efforts of China, which has pledged to finish building a moderately prosperous society in all respects by 2020. That entails lifting all its poor population out of poverty.

Speaking highly of the progress China has made, Guo noted that relevant work has been executed with great efforts, appropriate methods and unwavering confidence.

Beijing's determination not to leave anyone behind, he stressed, has shown the advantage of socialism with Chinese characteristics.

DEVELOPMENT ON RIGHT PATH

Another shift of the Chinese economy in the past five years, experts say, is that the government has continuously lowered the growth target for the gross domestic product (
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) in a bid to gain healthy development.

Following a target range of 6.5-6.7 percent for the previous year, in which the actual growth rate ended up to be 6.7 percent, Beijing has set the GDP growth rate for 2017 at 6.5 percent, the lowest for China in 25 years.

Yet even with growth rates between 5.5 and 6.5 percent in the coming years, China will still outpace the developed countries, which have realized much more moderate rates averaging 2-3 percent during the past five years, noted Gerishon Ikiara, a senior lecturer of international economics at the University of Nairobi in Kenya.

He estimated that with an annual growth rate of around 6 percent, China could replace the
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as the world's largest economy in just several years.

Perhaps more importantly, he added, China can continuously infuse new vigor into the world economic development, offsetting the headwinds from Washington's slide towards an "inward-looking, protectionist and anti-globalization" posture.

"China's economic development and its rising international status have proven that the country is on the right development path," said David Fleischer, a professor of sociology at University of Brasilia in Brazil.

Noting that the CPC is to hold its 19th national congress in the second half of this year, he commented that the party congress plays a decisive role in setting the direction of China's future development.

China's governance ideas "are unique and suits the country's national conditions," he said.
because Dec 18, 2016
while looking for the SCS news now
https://www.sinodefenceforum.com/chinas-scs-strategy-thread.t3118/page-393#post-429219
I noticed about "supply-side structural reform" (the first time I've heard of it) in Yearender-Xinhua Insight: From plans to progress: the first year of China's supply-side reform
source is Xinhua | 2016-12-18 17:43:37
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Hendrik_2000

Lieutenant General
Poverty alleviation program is the domain of government But that doesn't mean you have to fold your . Look how one man decide against all the odd to build road in the mountain connecting his isolated village to the world

Talking about taking initiative Chinese people is not short of it . That what make China so formidable amazing.

A tribute to perseverance, hard work and determination of Chinese people.
How a road change people live anyone who criticize infrastructure development should watch this video. that explain how after the road was built living standard increase considerably
 

SteelBird

Colonel
After the failure of straddling bus, here is a new toy.
CHINA has added another piece of public transport innovation to its growing list of achievements in the area.

It may not look as cool as its
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, but China has unveiled what is purported to be the world’s first train that operates on a virtual track using sensor technology instead of metal rails.

The new trains are battery powered and are said to be nonpolluting, according to the China’s
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The train’s top speed is 70 kilometres per hour, and it can travel 25 kilometres in distance after just 10 minutes of charging, the media outlet reported.

The unique public transport initiative was announced on June 2 in Zhuzhou, in China’s southern Hunan province.
 
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