J-20 5th Gen Fighter Thread V

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Anyone seen this before?
It's posted by the The Center for Strategic and International Studies. A think tank based in Washington, D.C
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It has a nice interactive 3D model
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and separate video

It's a good education video for starters whom just want to know what the basic J-20 is made of.
 

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That actually looks like a J-turn in the 1:00 to 1:10. But any display of this will bring accusations that it's edited; I need to figure out how to determine whether or not it's sped up, and by what factor?
 

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There's claims that it's edited (sped up), but by what amount? There's purportedly a 180-degree turn in 2 seconds around 1:00.

While deliberate deception from osint can never be ruled out, why is this a particular suspicion in this case? Was such a maneuvre ever thought to be unlikely for the J-20?
 
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), didn't see this posted here
 
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LOL I think I did Apr 6, 2017
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does it work?
(it's supposed to show like rendering of J-20 I found in Twitter
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Compared to previous videos, the J-20 either relaxed its AOA limiter or finally turned on its afterburners. In the past, the J-20 seemed relatively sluggish in maneuver, whereas here, it's a more vigorous aircraft. Hence suspicion that it's been sped up (and on F-16.net someone chewed me up since one of the video compliations WAS sped up)
 

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Compared to previous videos, the J-20 either relaxed its AOA limiter or finally turned on its afterburners. In the past, the J-20 seemed relatively sluggish in maneuver, whereas here, it's a more vigorous aircraft. Hence suspicion that it's been sped up (and on F-16.net someone chewed me up since one of the video compliations WAS sped up)

To be honest, the fairly limited variety of footage of J-20s conducting any sort of meaningful maneuvers at all in the air, when we remember that most footage is taken over CAC and Chengdu, should not be much of a surprise.
If we had footage of it conducting maneuvers at Yanliang or even better at Dingxing, then those would be sites where the actual upper limit of J-20s flight performance would be tested and conducted.

In other words, if anyone's trying to use the little footage of J-20 maneuvers we have, to try and assess what its upper limit of kinematics/maneuvrability is, well you're probably going to come away with a fairly inaccurate estimate.


I'm not sure if that part of the footage may or may not be sped up -- I couldn't see any indications if it was but it would be hard to tell if it was tbh -- but looking at the limited range of currently available J-20 flight footage (the overwhelming amount being over Chengdu and about a minute's worth over Zhuhai airshow last year) to try and eyeball what its maneuvrability may be and to form a consensus off that is a bit silly.
 
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